Fab Four of this Era ~ PBF, PAC, ? & ?

Floyd and Pac who are on another level. Then Mosley, and probably Cotto.

 

It's a poor man's Fab 4/5, but this is the closest this generation has produced:

Hagler= Hopkins
Leonard= De La Hoya
Hearns= Trinidad
Duran= Mosley
Benitez= Winky


Pac is more like Henry Armstrong or Sugar Ray Robinson at this stage.
Mayweather is more like the Pernell Whitaker of this generation

 

There's nothing comparable at this point. Mosely's in the mix but has been quite inconsistent and Floyd's refusal to fight anyone while faking a retirement frankly means he shouldn't be compared to guys that fought the toughest available. Floyd compares on talent, don't get me wrong, but even taking into consideration how Leonard always tried to sway things his way - at least he took the fights!

The DLH, Trinidad, Mosely, Vargas mention was a pretty good one. Damn, a Mosley/Trinidad fight would have been something...

 

No matter how talented floyd is, you cannot deny that he did not fought the best out there. Hmm a cherry picker and no risk at all.

 

What I understood from your first post was that Pacquiao did all the cleaning which I explained to you wasn't the case at all. In his last five fights Mayweather fought and beat three of the guys he fought, Cotto and Diaz are the only ones left out. The fight with Cotto was nearly impossible when Mayweather was active in 2007, yes the same year he was considered fighter of the year, because at that time Cotto/Margarito was already negotiated, dated and sealed. Only reason it was postponed is because Margarito failed against Williams. If what you meant was the division cleaned itself then sure I'll agree but Pacquiao cleaned it?, don't think so, the only recent opponent Pac fought that Mayweather didn't fight is Cotto. I believe by fighting Pacquiao next it should make it clear to you that he does indeed have plans to "clean". During the Leonard, Hagler, Leonard and Duran days all these fights shared a lot of complications till they finally happened. The Hearns fight took a lot of time to make, the Hagler fight and even the Duran fight, though the Duran was quickest compared to the rest. So cleaning wasn't just one phone call and all was done back then either, there was a time where people thought Leonard would NEVER fight Hearns and Leonard was called a chicken for it too. Same thing happened with Hagler.

Mayweather refusing to fight Mosley is utter nonsense, he refuses to fight Mosley to make the Pacquiao fight and the Pacquiao fight is obviously the fight the majority not only want but demand. If he fought Mosley before Pac then he's fighting old guys and if he fought Pac then he refuses to fight Mosley and wants to fight microscopic sized opponents, fact is they can't fight all the same night like Pacquiao can't.

After the Pac fight, if he wins, a fight with Mosley becomes logical if he beats Berto. Everyone remembers what happened when Mayweather called out to fight Mosley at 154 when he beat Vargas so there's no need for me to post the video again. If he doesn't take that approach then I'll agree with you.

I can't deny that I agree about one thing, the fact that the division looked to clean itself with many fights happening till Mayweather finally came out of retirement because he was obligated to do when Pac was clearly taking his spot and quickly made the public forget he existed. Seriously, would you say coming back now is safer or when Margarito and Cotto were "ruling" the divisions he's in?. Paul Williams remains in the mix and is definitely an opponent worth fighting so I won't even argue or make any excuses about that but the rest of the guys there's A LOT of complications which I expected logical and knowledgeable boxing fans to easily understand. There was no excuse whatsoever to not fight Williams especially when Goossen and Mayweather were on great terms. Williams at the time was working to become Margarito's mandatory and Mitchell was the guy he had to beat to secure it.

Anyway, we can't judge now, still too many great fights are coming and we need to watch them before immediately claiming certain guys belong in a "fabulous" list or not.

 

the only real Fab four of this generation is Pac-MAB-JMM-Morales, it could have been a Fab five if Hamed did not retire too soon. you could argue for Casamayor-Corrales-Castillo-Freitas as another fab four of the lightweight division but they aren't really as fabulous in terms of popularity and skills compared to the featherweight quartet

 

Pacquiao would be cleaning it if he happens to beat mayweather then beats the winner of Mosley-berto which i'm sure will most likely be the next fight should he get pass Money

 

Yeah, let's talk about the best and THE WELTERWEIGHTS!

Joshua Clottey
Luis Collazo
Antonio Concreto
Alfonso Gomez
Golden Johnson
Andrew "Six heads zero chins" Lewis

Damn, I nearly fainted from fear thinking Mayweather MIGHT fight them just typing those names.

Paul Williams and Shane Mosley. Those were the two names worth mentioning and Mayweather did call out Mosley but got turned down despite Mayweather planning to move up to 154 for it. Williams, at the time, was unproven and was looking to secure a fight with Margarito by becoming his mandatory. Miguel Cotto went for Mosley before fighting an already planned, mentioned, negotiated successfully and dated Margarito.

Typing one liners like a jackass is easy but knowing what was happening surely isn't, especially for limited minds.

 

Mayweather would also be cleaning if he beats Pacquiao next then fights the winner of Berto-Mosley.

 

annihilate? your guy cant even finish marquez! how much more cotto!atsch

 

Pac beat 1 welterweight and he cleaned house?!?! LMFAO!!! U still got Shane who everybody is avoiding and he whooped Margarito, the only other decent welter that comes to mind when Floyd left. How exactly did Pacquiao clean house? ****in *******s. SMH

 

There's a good chance that mayweather would just go back to retirement after he beats pacquiao and leaves the winner of Mosley and Berto without an opponent. but if Pacquiao wins, i can't see him not fighting Mosley or berto even if by that time he is already Congressman Pacquiao.

 

Pac and Floyd are obvious. I said the other two could be Mosley and Cotto, but could also add Williams at some point.

 

I'm with you on that. According to boxrec there are currently 1425 active welterweights Paquiao has fought 1 of them. Hardly a cleaned house is it? Does that mean if I clean my front door, I don't have to bother with the rest of my appartment? Quality!