Weights - When?

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  1. dfh85

    dfh85 Active Member Full Member

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    I do 2 weights sessions a week, Monday and Thursday..

    I also box and run on these days..

    When should I get my weights session in; Before or after my boxing?

    I cannot split the day up and have to do the weights routine either directly before or after I box.

    Is it better to do my weights session when I'm fresh, then go on to my boxing training, or should I box first then hit the weights (I'm usually fully spent when I finish boxing training)

    Heres my weights routine;

    5x5 Squat (100kg)
    5x5 Bench (75kg)
    5x5 Deadlift (120kg)
    5x5 Overhead press (60KG)

    Its quite short, high intensity.

    and boxing;

    3xskipping
    3xshadow
    3xheavybag
    2xmitts
    2xheavybag
    2xdouble end
    2xheavybag
    2xdouble end
    3xshadowboxing

    would it be unhealthy / counter productive to combine the two into one workout? do you think i could hadle it? (hypothetically)
     
  2. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxing after a weights workout is a good way to injure yourself.
    After lifting, your muscles are broken down, add to that the quick snappy motions involved in throwing punches, and you get injuries.

    Of course, by being tired from the boxing, you are not maximizing your weight lifting sessions. The ideal situation is to separate the two...if you absolutely can't, then box first, lift last.
     
  3. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    I'd say depends on your goals, you can change after a while, I'd do it after.
     
  4. dfh85

    dfh85 Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks guys, after it is.
     
  5. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I used to run in the morning like 7 in the morning. Do weights around midday and boxing training in the evening.
     
  6. GNARL

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    The proper order of exercises in a week, day, month, etc is technical workout(boxing), speed, anaerobic endurance(sprinting), strength training, then endurance training(aerobic). So you should do your boxing before your weights. Your running last. But I recommend not doing all this in one day. Do your running the next day. Will help your recovery. But if you are satisfied with your results then you can.
     
  7. I would say no. But try it out and see if it works for you?

    You can only fail
     
  8. freesix88

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    Interesting. Never knew this. So I should do my running after weightlifting.
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    weights...

    ...when you are a pro.
     
  10. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    This is rubbish.
    Yes honing skills as amateur is more important than strength, but he wants to do them, whatever.

    what if he never turns pro? never lift weights?
     
  11. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    as long as he is an amateur boxer there is no urgent need for weights. he probably has a life to live. wasting time on weights is just that - wasting time. i'm certain is game isn't up to par. when he gets to the olympics or something and he is given money to concentrate 100% on boxing then he can do weights. i'm sure he only has so much time to train. i strongly suggests he dedicates it to boxing.

    weights will only change his weight and give him a false sense of strength and power cos he sees some muscles growing. infact he probably won't even do the right weights. i suggest he doesn't mess around with them and when he has the time and quality advice from someone who is educated then he can start implementing useful routines.
     
  12. PugilistStudent

    PugilistStudent Active Member Full Member

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    ^^^ Maybe he just enjoys hitting the weights too...

    I'd do the weights after but I'd scale it back for now, I might also pull a few rounds out of your traiing for now.

    You may feel like a ***** doing this but it'll give you a better idea what your body can handle well and what it cant.

    Week 1: warm up sets and 1 work set. Week 3: warm up sets and 2 works sets...just keep adding 1 work set every two weeks and if you get to a point where you feel too worn out then go back 1 work set and slowly try to work back up, maybe taking 3 weeks this time around.

    BTW what are your goals with this weight routine? is it for boxing performance?
     
  13. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    if boxing and weight training is just for enjoyment then sure he can do what he wants. he isn't looking to be the best and his weights isn't supposed to improve his performance.
     
  14. scotchpieirnbru

    scotchpieirnbru Active Member Full Member

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    How would weights improve his performance then? i would be interested also as i have been advised to do high reps and low weight to increase muscle endurance.
     
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    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    weight training is complex. people wish it was simple. lift this, do this, do that. i'd advise everyone to start basic, learn the technique, learn the different exercises and then move onto basic compound exercises for fully body development. past that, they should consult someone who can show them what needs to be done or really research it before committing to a program.

    imo, weights is a waste of time until you are a full time amateur or pro.