What Fighters had ALL THE TALENT to be ELITE LEVEL Fighters....

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  1. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ....., but NEVER took the sport SERIOUSLY (Poor training habits, couldn't make weight, always out of shape, conflicts with their camp...etc)

    For me...EMMANUEL AUGUSTUS HAS THE MOST TALENT OF ANY BOXER OF THE PAST GENERATION.

    That is a STRONG statement...But I am STICKING WITH IT!!!

    He can make ANYONE miss, He can hurt you with either hand, You can teach a clinic by simply watching his Left-Right Body2Head Combos...And he did it all while ACTING A DAMN FOOL.

    Sometimes I wonder about the possibilities of Augustus if he'd ever took the sport seriously.

    Also...Zab Judah's lack of discipline is just God Awful!!!

    Others: Mayorga, Shannon Briggs, James Toney
     
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  2. pashadk

    pashadk Member Full Member

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    Yeah Augustus is the perfect example I guess. Judah, Toney have had success earlier in their careers but Augustus is a big "what if"
     
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  3. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    scott harrisson - He was on a good run of wbo defenses then he just decided to drink it all away, and get in trouble with police for drinking and street fighting :-(
     
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  4. FINITO

    FINITO Boxing Junkie banned

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    Jhonny gonzalez
     
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  5. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    kirkland laing
     
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  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Came in to say this.
     
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  7. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also Mads Larsen. He beat sven ottke and got ROBBED in germany for the wba and ibf titles. he was 44-1 and in his prime. Then his promoter completly ****ed him, and through some bull**** he wasnt allowed to fight for 4 years. ****ing scummy promoters :-(
     
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  8. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmm... Mayorga... when I first saw that I thought "nah, never elite", but with a good trainer, yeah, you just never know.

    In this HW division, the Sam Peter of Toney II could have been top-5 for years if he wanted to. He let that win go to his head (and stomach).
     
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  9. r2d2

    r2d2 HATERS GONNA HATE! Full Member

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    lol MAYORGA? the guy that blow his cigarette on his press conferences.
     
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  10. ali's jockstrap

    ali's jockstrap Member Full Member

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    to a degre you coul say tyson! obviously had sucess but cud have been sooo much more if his problems didnt affect his training
     
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  11. joe33

    joe33 Guest

    corrie saunders maybe ?, he beats wlad and then came in fat as hell against vitali, and yet for a couple of rounds still did ok, vits looked very unsure of him in the early rounds till saunders got tired then battered
     
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  12. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    The fact that he has a rotten chin didn't help either.

    A few more names to throw in the hat:

    Mike Bounty Hunter
    Panchito Bojado
    Travis Simms
    Joan Guzman
     
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  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Zab
    Ortiz jury still out on him though.
     
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  14. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    zab judah. while i respect the thread starter's interesting pick of the drunken master, i have to say judah is the single most naturally gifted fighter of the post jones era. and now he's a journeyman. at 32...**** it's hard being a super zab fan.
     
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  15. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Augustus is one of the most naturally gifted fighters of the last years (not THE most tho), yes, but poorly managed and lacked champ/winner mentality.

    Mayorga is an overachiever. After all he's a two division champ/beltholder.

    Zab Judah is an underachiever, but he was considered an elite fighter some years ago.

    Shannon Briggs was a contender/beltholder, he always was limited, I don't think he could've done any better.

    Toney is an underachiever, but whenever he decided to take the sport serious he actually was an elite fighter. Sure HOFer, ATG, three division champ, an elite fighter in other words.
     
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