**OFFICIAL**: Incompetent/Corrupt Judges Thread.

This is a great thread and may'be we will see a pattern here. A recent fight that came to my mind that nobody has mentioned yet was the Dawson-Johnson II fight. I felt that Dawson dominated easily and two of the scorecards read 115-113.

Duane Ford
115-113 Chad Dawson

Michael Pernick
115-113 Chad Dawson

 

I concur. 'Klion22', hats off to you, sir- this was a brilliant idea:good. I would like to request that only blatant robberies be kept in, though, as the thread would become cluttered if people just moaned about scorecards in close fights that could have went either way.

 

Doug Tucker

Scored Toney over McCallum 117-110 in their rematch...then scored Griffiin over Toney 119-109 in their 2nd fight :huh.

 

I know several boxing Judges that you all listed here. In fact Tom Kaczmarek sent me an E-Mail late this morning.

I honestly don't know any top boxing judge that has never been questioned about their scorecards, especially if they judged a lot. If you take 12 very close rounds from 12 different bouts and have the top boxing judges, judge all those rounds, you will get a big difference in scoring.

 

Oscar De La Hoya over Felix Sturm
Mike Glienna 113-115 | judge: Paul Smith 113-115 | judge: Dave Moretti 113-115 ~

 

Great thread.

 

Ken Morita having Tyson beating Douglas at the time of the stoppage has to be one of the worst scores I've ever heard.

 

Another recent fight that didn't go the distance with dodgy scoring has to be Mosley ahead against Mayorga: Tony Crebs 107-102; Nelson Vazquez 105-104!patsch

 

That Eugenia Williams scorecard is probably one of the worst ever seen in boxing.

Also have you seen Jerry Roth's round-by-round card for the De La Hoya-Trinidad fight? He had Tito winning 3 of the first 4 rounds and had Oscar winning the 12th. patsch

 

What would have been a fair scorecard for Tyson vs Douglas?

I've not watched it in ages.....

Thanks in advance :good

To the earlier poster.....

I'm most pissed off with the Gavin stoppage because I had a £2 treble on the three Olympians being taken the distance (and winning obviously) at roughly 80/1.

It was ten seconds away from coming in, and the stoppage was ****ing disgusting.

Wasn't like Calzaghe vs Manfredo, where it was dodgy but the guy was clearly out of his depth and had 8 1/2 rounds to go - there were ten seconds left and he wasn't hurt at all.

:-(

 

I think I had Mosley ahead 106-103. Mayorga didn't do squat in most of the rounds. 107-102 isn't an unreasonable score. We're trying to keep this to scores that are way out there, not fights that were hard to score and could have gone either way.

 

Unfortunately, Kaczmarek's score stood out in a night where nobody came out looking very good - it's a shame that his performance is the takeaway that many got. I seem to remember the referee taking the cards, dropping them and then handing them back... Kaczmarek could easily have used that as an excuse for strange scoring. Kellerman seems to complain about him a lot, but he's hardly qualified to speak on that subject. Van Hoye, however, has stuck out like a sore thumb to me for years; I can't imagine she stays in contact with you, though.

You mentioned in another thread (that I've lost track of) Larry Hazzard's majority scoring. I was a big, big fan of that one.

 

.....his 1st instinct was the right one.