I've never made a top 100 p4p list but...

Lopez above Barrera?
Marquez in a top 100?
Marciano in the top 20?

Ouch.

Michael Spinks. Where would you rank him, PHILLA, and why?

 

I rate fighters not on what they could have done but what they did do, and Marquez has no case to being as high as either Barrera or Morales, two fighters who fought and better opposition in just as many weight divisions.

Resume isn't a big criteria for you, then?

His resume isn't top 20 level, his skills aren't top 20 level, and neither was his longevity. Why is he top 20?

Sorry to hear that, PHILLA.

How about Orlando Canizales?

 

If you got around to actually doing a top 100 you'd see guys like Vitali, Calzaghe, Marquez cant fit in, its simply too difficult with all the great fighters over the years. Mosley and Tito are pusing it imo.

 

The only people who are qualified to make a credible top 100 list of fighters are those that have at least seen Michael Spinks. PHILLA hasn't. That isn't get on him, I'm not qualified either because I'm only getting my Vincente Saldivar education right now.

 

How about Orlando Canizales. PHILLA?

A fighter who was every bit as dominant at Bantamweight as Lopez was at Minimumweight, but who had better fighters to contend with? Skillwise, Orlando has a strong case, I feel, for being rated on the same level if not higher than the great Finito Lopez?

 

Addie is right...you have to be careful how much stock you put into how good a fighter look in your opinion.

It certainly counts but you have to really look at who they beat. So often fighters look the **** against a certain level of opponant then fall apart when they step up.
Lopez was never really challenged because there was no one there to challenge him.

Though not his fault he did miss out on fighting two of the best light flys of that era...which would have went a long way to justifying him over Barrera.

Greb, Langford and Charles should make your top 10 for a start, then after that go for your life but dont forget Fitzsimmons who many people overlook. Possible top 10 but I reckon solid top 25 at the very least.

 

Had he faced and defeated Gonzalez and Carbajal, there would be no questions over his resume, and he'd be rated higher than Marco with absolutely no complaints from me. Whether or not he was capable doesn't matter, he just didn't do it.

 

Were do Sam Langford, Orginal Walcott, George Dixon, Micky Walker, Marcel Cerdan, Barney Ross, Tony Canzoneri, Jimmy McLarin, Dick Tiger, Joe Gans, Gene Tunney, Thomas Hearns, Salvador Sanchez, rank in the list?

 

Pretty absurd listings there.

 

and then ... i stop to read

 

I watched Chavez vs LaPorte last night. He was brilliant. So calm, so relaxed, and he delivered punches beautifully to head and body.