ok..so i will just play along for a second...so haye did not like "slave contract with Wlad" then why on earth would he enter into an agreement to fight his brother? if infact any of that is true, did he honestly think Vitali contract would be better? and you call Valeuv a major belt holder who pulls in huge numbers..... ok.... for some reason i dont think Valeuv pulls in big numbers, and im not sure what your criteria is for big numbers and now that haye does have the belt...i think he will be unreasonable and hide behind it and he will feast on the likes of john ruiz then maybe an ademek, or anyone else that is not a Klitschko
I honestly do think Haye wants to fight both Klitschkos but being a promoter himself he saw the potential of David v Goliath when it was offered. The Wlad fight was marketed similar on Setanta before it went tits up fow whatever reason. I'm a big fan of Hayes but I'll call him a fake if the WBA circle jerk continues. I'm confident enough that it won't happen though
explain how it is bad considering a rematch for champions is comon and the fight with Vitali is WHAT HAYE wanted.... explain:roll:
WRONG:-( not a postponement... it was a cancellation Haye asked for 2 weeks... Wlad said yes later the same day, Haye said..oppss...i need 5 weeks...Wlad said OK Next morning Haye called and said..I need 8-10 weeks... Wlad had no choice to say NO.. Haye pushed it to a cancellation I know this because i was sitting right next to Wlad for all 3 phone calls from Booth:deal
How about he had a tweak. They thought it was minor. They had it examined. It was more serious. They got a diagnosis from an expert. Full extent was revealed. There camp is quite remote in Cyprus. May be relevant. May be not. What do you really think happened Chef? Let's hear it
IMO Haye kept adding time to heal so Wlad would have no choice but to cancel or fight someone else. IMO Haye backed out because of Sentanta and not the back. I get that he wasnt getting paid, I just think he should have said so rather then the back issue and then the "slave contract" bull****...IMO Haye didnt handle it very well. but whats done is done:good
Quite easy to defend, to be honest. He would have made literally no money out of the Wlad fight (Wlad wouldnt have signed if that contract had been offered to him). He would have fought Vit if Valuev hadnt offered him a fight. Vit was offering a similarly shite contract as Wlad. He now has a heavyweight title and therefore will be able to make money out of a fight with Wlad or Vitali. He chose to get the WBA strap, fight a shite mandatory and then get a fight with either of the Klitschkos. His choice was fight Wlad or Vitali, risk everything for no money OR fight 2 shitters, win a world title and then fight either of the brothers and get paid good money for every fight. Any boxer in the modern era would do the same
Original Wlad fight Haye had a £14m contract with Setanta. That's why he agreed. With Vitali it was based on ppv and the Valuev fight was deemed more viable cause of the David v Goliath aspect. Not hard is it friend.
But what people are forgetting is Haye has a rematch against Valuev...which Haye complained about against Wlad..and Haye is stuck in the WBA circle jerk of fights. Haye can only pick where the fights are not WHO...sounds worse then the so called 'Slave contract" from the brothers. Seems to me there is more to the story about fighting the Klitschkos since he signed what looks to be a worst contract with King and Co
anyone see the interview with Haye where one of the hosts spoke of a girl he wanted to go out with, but he saw her at a party with Wladdy? Haye went on to say something to the line of forget about her cause after a night with Wlad she'll probably never be the same
King will only get a small financial slice of Hayes next 2 fights. He is irrelevant in the scheme of things. Sauerland are the co-promoters and have a very good relationship with Hayemaker. Do Sauerland want a cut of a small fight against a circle jerk opponent or a cut of a massive fight with someone else before their contract expires. Valuev II won't sell in England now.
Yeah but to be fair you never let on what the figures looked like for those fights....as I recall Haye wasn't happy that he would be getting less than the brothers for all 3 fights, even if he won the first one? Let's have some balance here....there's a reason he fought Valuev and that reason is bargaining power, nothing else. You can slate him all you like for defending against Ruiz but is Ruiz any worse than the likes of Rahman who WALDO recently fought? Or this bum VITLAY is fighting at the weekend? Haye's getting criticised for not fighting often enough, he has to defend against Ruiz and it's "ha ha he's fighting Ruiz" atsch
I don't see why that would be the case, I should imagine wearing a strap-on wouldn't affect her physically at all. Mentally maybe but that's another matter.
