Hamed's resume?

He didn't have the heart or the ability to be one of the best ever, and if you want to know the truth of it, Barry McGuigan would have taken his pants down too in my judgment. Hamed excelled against B level opposition, the man thought one elite fighter in his entire career and he fell short in a big way. Instead of coming back and reversing the defeat like great champions do, he faded into obscurity. I'm supposed to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he wasn't motivated for a Super fight? The biggest fight he ever contested in, the biggest stage he had to demonstrate his skills, flare, and personality? ...Don't buy it.

Barrera was a better fighter, pure and simple.

 

I certainly don't think Mcguigan would have beaten him (apparently mcguigan was in training to fight him at one point) and I don't think Hamed lacked ability.

 

Hamed was talented, sure, but he didn't have the kind of ability required to establish himself as one of the greatest to have ever laced them up. There's so many different facets to this game in order to be successful. If you have all the talent, then you need to have the capacity to overcome adversity, take punishment, and dig deep. Some fighters were like that, Aturo Gatti, who just didn't have the ability or the focus to assist his unreal heart.

Hamed was never ever going to get away with clowning Marco Antonio Barrera....walking rings around Marco with your arms at your side? ...No way in hell. We should have seen it coming.

 

His Heart wasn't in it at that point. I really do believe the family thing was an issue.

The only arguement I can see against Hamed is that he didn't enforce the re-match clause. But again I put that down to what I have said above.

 

He cleaned out his division. It was not his fault that it was not the strongest at him time.

 

Actually, there's plenty of arguments.

- He didn't follow up on a rematch
- Hamed made a career out of struggling with B level fighters
- He was knocked down..numerous times in his career
- He lost the first time he stepped up to elite level.
- Barrera would go onto become a 3 weight world champion

...Plenty of reasons to assume Hamed was never good enough.

 

Mate I'm not saying you don't have a case.

I'm just saying I don't agree. I think Hamed was a very special fighter!

 

Hamed has a solid if unspectacular resume. Fact of the matter is he's probably the hardest hitter in the history of 126 (though Danny Lopez and Sandy Saddler have a strong claim) although he WAS clearly unmotivated by the end.

Hamed bs Barrera when it was first mooted-Hamed.

The version of Barrera that showed up in 2001 vs ANY version of Naz and Barrera outpoint him.

The win over Johnson is an underrated one IMO.

 

Hamed was good fighter, and excellent value for money...and perhaps he was just really unlucky to run into the best version of Marco Antonio Barrera, who's prime I think was between 1998-2002.

 

Barrera is clearly the better fighter (probably about 60ish on my alltime list while Hamed doesn't scrape the top 150 probably) but it is clear to an objective mind that Hamed was not the same fighter.

Does that mean Hamed deserves extra kudos or a free pass? No. That shows why he fell short of greatness, he couldn't be arsed.

 

The version of Barrera that fought Naz beats any version of Naz, no doubt. Too much ring intelligence.

 

Exactly. Could have been a great!

 

I think between 60-70 is fair for Marco. :good

 

Good resume but obviously not great. Hamed is one of those people that just polarizes opinion. Some tend to go ape**** over him for his style and panache, while others forget everything he did prior to Barrera. He had a good career.