Is Mexico losing Talent, JMM is the only elite mexican boxer today!!!

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Left straight -right hook combo will put any top tier down on the ground best believe, just 19.

 

I don't consider Pacturds to be too brilliant to begin with, but Asero is one of the most idiotic posters I have ever seen. I think he actually believes all his nonsense. If it was a wind-up, that would be one thing, but he believes all his post!

 

THEIR YOU GO AGAIN PITO BREATH TALKING WITH YOUR MOUTH FULLatsch

 

Scar when Chavez fought Whitaker the fight was at 147 as everybody knows Chavez is the best at 140...tore through Rosario, Camacho, and Melderick Taylor. Scar I thought you knew your stuff...I guess I was mistaken.

 

today?! not so many...in the years to come! they will have a lots of good/great boxers again.

 

playa hater atsch

 

Hey, what are you talking about "knowing your stuff"? That fight wasn't at 147. It was at 145. And ****, Whitaker weighed in closer to 140 than he did 145.

:rasta

 

Just looked it up on Boxrec.......

They fought at a catchweight of no more than 145 lbs......

Whitaker weighed in at 145 lbs

Chavez weighed in at 142 lbs


I'm a huge Chavez fan and can still recall specifics of the going on's that surrounded that matchup.......
......When Chavez was questioned on why he only weighed 142 lbs, "was it because you felt you needed to be fast?" Chavez was asked.......
Chavez answered, "If I could have been heavier and still feel to be in 100% shape, I would have made the limit.
.....but my body at 100% physical shape and peaked, can only handle 142 lbs."

........those were Chavez' words before he actually stepped into the ring against Whitaker.


........nowdays, fighters use modern methods to put on mass and be able to mantain most of there speed, whether those methods are legal or illegal I have'nt a clue.

 

I meant that Pernell in that fight was a true welter and Chavez was not.

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Just wanted to show why the Rosario win was such a big deal


Rosario turned pro in 1979 and, after winning his first twenty-one bouts, all but one by KO, he fought Jose Luis Ramirez of Mexico in a contest that would decide the vacant WBC 135 pound championship. Edwin won the fight, held in May of 1983, unanimously on points over 12 rounds to become a world champion. He made two successful defences, before losing the crown in a return bout with Ramirez. In a vastly different fight from their first meeting, Ramirez rose from two early knockdowns to prevail by TKO in the fourth round. Rosario's reign as a world champ was over, for the time being at least.

Being the crowd pleaser he was, Rosario was given another chance to rise to the top. Boxing the self proclaimed, "Macho Man" in Hector Camacho, "Chapo" made him look anything but Macho in the later rounds. After shaking the unbeaten Camacho, who had taken the title from Ramirez, Rosario was in hot pursuit of his fellow Puerto Rican, who did nothing but run and fight negatively down the stretch. The champion remained as such thanks to his being awarded a controversial split decision when many ringsiders felt Rosario's hand should have been raised. Due to the furore the result caused, Edwin was given yet another crack at world glory. This time he seized it with both hands. Crushing the talented Livingstone Bramble in just two rounds three years on from his first tenure as a world champion, Rosario was the new WBA lightweight king. One successful retention followed - an eight round stoppage over yet another Puerto Rican boxer in Juan Nazario - before the match-up with Mr. Chavez.

Chavez began his pro career one year after Rosario, and like the man he would eventually face, he too went unbeaten as a fighter until receiving his first shot at a world title. In fact, Julio would one day reach the astonishingly impressive figure of ninety-one fights without a loss! (one draw). That day was still some time away, however. Challenging his countryman, Mario Martinez for the vacant WBC super featherweight championship in September of 1984, Julio was successful in eight rounds. He went on to make nine defences in less than three years, a fine work-rate. Julio then made the move up to lightweight. The man standing in the way of his second world championship was the lethal punching Rosario.

They met at The Las Vegas Hilton on the 21st of November 1987, and a quite magnificent display of fighting prowess from the twenty-five year old Chavez followed. Though many expected to see a close and competitive fight, one that the slugger from Puerto Rico could very possibly win by a KO, what they got was a one sided master class from an all-time great. Rosario shipped an awful lot of punishment over the 11 rounds the fight went. His courage was admirable, without a doubt. But the relentlessly forward moving machine he had in front of him on this night proved to be way too much . Chavez had an absolutely iron chin, a great array of punches to both body and head and seemingly limitless stamina. All combined, these attributes served to steadily destroy the slightly younger man. The beating began almost right from the opening bell and by the 11th round Edwin had one eye hammered almost completely shut and a mouth that was badly spitting blood. Referee Richard Steele had seen enough and intervened at two minutes and thirty-eight seconds of the round. Chavez was the new holder of the WBA lightweight title.

Both men continued fighting for a living for a number of years to come. Chavez went on to reach the aforementioned 90-0-1, collecting another world title (light-welter) and drawing for a fourth (welter) along the way. While Rosario ploughed on in an assortment of further world title chances. "Chapo" actually managed to become a world champ on another two occasions. Firstly he regained his old title - thanks to Chavez vacating and moving up in weight - with a sixth round stoppage win over Anthony Jones. Then, after losing the WBA lightweight title for a second time - by TKO to former victim Juan Nazario - Rosario moved up himself and smashed his way to the WBA junior-welterweight championship with a third round destruction of Loreto Garza. And finally, in his last world title fight, he was relieved of his belt by way of a defeat to the Japanese fighter, Akinobu Hiranaka, in one sensational round. This post-Chavez period of Edwin's career, possibly the most eventful, all took place between the years 1989 and 1992. By which time, of course, Julio was, and still is, referred to as a living legend. With all he managed to achieve, Rosario doesn't deserve to be too far behind, does he?

 

i hate ****en threads like this.

 

I kind of agree...eventually they get dirty and racist

 

true. i just hope threads like this stop, so that we can pay respect to our fave fighters the proper way. no need to criticize, no need for racial insults, no bull****.

 

The insults and name calling almost always come from the same posters who just love to troll around the forum and get into whatever thread they feel is an opportunity to spread their venom.

Dont really have a problem with the thread or its title, even though it was started by a *******, good debate can also come from threads like this.

The best thing to do is to try and ignore the trolls and not respond to any of their posts in any way.
If one even acknowleadges their post in any way, even with a smiley of sorts.......thats what they were looking for.

Ignore the trolls!:deal

 

Mexico will always have great fighters on the rise.

 

The frauds of this sport are the ones that need concrete in their gloves to compete and lose against guys half their size, need roids to look terrible beating tomato cans and an entire record of controversial wins like your idol Chavez and fighters similar to him. Those are the frauds of this sport and I'm glad they're ****ing off due to Pacman ass whopping.