Opinions on this top 10 Light Flyweight list.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Addie, Dec 14, 2009.

  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Addie, if you want to see Chang at his best, watch the Tokashiki fight up on Youtube.
     
  2. Flea Man

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    Ouch:deal
     
  3. Flea Man

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    You know the hypothetical 'If you could have one person backing you up in a fight?'

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIg6d6jnNs0&feature=channel[/ame]

    I'd have Chang :lol: In all seriousness, he's an offensive beast, just watch him, chasing his opponent down and constantly throwing, sometimes taking shots in return, but relentless, sometimes with subtle movements and slips to stop him shipping some punches, shots from all angles, punches in bunches, knows how to buy himself some time to recuperate for his next attack, he's a superhero and this video is a worthy addition to this thread :good

    And the finish:
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWH98ICYJE&feature=channel[/ame]
     
  4. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tokashiki was solid too, as far as the lesser champions at light fly goes.One of the better ones.Very fast hands of his own, good combinations and decent skills, but short with zero power.A poor man's Kuniaki Shibata in a way.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Perez was also very short. I made a case for Perez to beat Chang, taking the younger prime version of Chang and bumping him up a few lbs. Fair? Or do you think Chang would beat the Argentine?
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Sorry to butt in.

    But I think Perez is too physically strong for Chang and could match him and back Chang up on the inside, also Perez's mobility is quite underrated and he could prance inand out of range very quickly and exlode into combinations that were more damaging than Changs
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Prance is a good word. To me though it's more like a trot.
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Prance is a shite word makes him sound like a ballerina, dont have a clue why i used it trot is much better
     
  9. horst

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    Roy Jones at supermiddleweight too surely?

    (I'm trying to veer Addie's thread as far off course as I can :D)
     
  10. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :lol: I got Gushiken vs Lopez in the mail today mate. Great fighter. :good

    What would your list be, just keep it among the top 6 if you want...I think they are clearly ahead of everybody else. As I said, mine is as follows.

    1. Jung Koo Chang - Great resume, lots of defenses, looks great on film.
    2. Hilario Zapata - Great resume, lots of defenses, looks great on film.

    3. Myung-Woo Yuh - Record for defenses, looks great on film.
    4. Yoko Gushiken - Also looks great on film, didn't have enough title defensese to compensate for lacking resume like Yuh.

    5. Humberto Gonzalez - Beat many world champions, the most flawed fighter out of all of them for me though.
    6. Michael Carbajal - faced more world champions than anyone else, but is the worst head to head in my judgment.

    ...Brief points to outline the selections, I know, and I feel Gushiken and Yuh are interchangeable depending on your criteria.
     
  11. horst

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    For one of the only times in history, I agree with your order exactly. I suppose an argument could be made for having Gushiken above Yuh, but I'd go with the way you have them. You're getting right into the 80s little men just now eh? Have you devoured that full Duran set yet? How ****ing amazing is it?? I think the day I got mine through the post was the best day of my entire existence!
     
  12. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :lol: Still waiting for it to come mate. I ordered 7 sets so they may not get here for awhile. I can't wait though, I've been a fan of the man these last few months. Some of his career defining moments were breathtaking, and I'm certain that they'll be a few obscure performances in the set that will leave my jaw hanging open. :good

    By the way, I'll be sending yours and Gregs fights off on Friday. Discs are done, just gotta slap the stamp on the envelope and your address so be sure to pm me it again.

    Side note, I'm obsessed with the 108lbs division.
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    I'd definitely have Yuh behind Gushiken. He'd be on par with Carbajal and Gonzalez at the weight for different reasons. They obviously took on the better opposition, but I believe his dominance and the fact that I could see him beating either fighter puts him in their class. He'd be borderline top 5 for me with Chang, Zapata, and Gushiken as the clear cut top 3.
     
  14. Sweet Pea

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    Lopez would be a lot more dominant against the 105 crop throughout history than Chang would be against the 108 crop, but then that has a lot to do with the difference in quality between the two classes, despite the fact that they're only 3 pounds apart. There is no question whatsoever that Lopez would've handily beaten any other fighter to have fought at 105 pounds, you could at least make the argument against Chang. Not that I would personally, as I think he'd hold his own with any Flyweight period.
     
  15. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gushiken vs Lopez is the Flyweight McCallum vs Curry.Great Little fight.