Is Mexico losing Talent, JMM is the only elite mexican boxer today!!!

castillo broke 2 ribes, ****ed up floyds shoulder and had him against the ropes worst than a wwe superstar.......what in the **** do these clowns think chavez would do to floyd at 135

 

at 135 chavez is the kind of fighter that would give anyone fits and probably beat most....how these guys can easily say that floyd easily beats him is ****en pathetic

 

You have a point here. A lot of folks talk about this fight, though many undoubtedly have not seen it.

Personally, I have watched that fight 3-4 times.

 

no lie.....my lady just called me and told me her boss gave her a gift, a biggo basket of victoria secrets lotions, sprays etc etc.....and guess what smell.....SWEET PEA !!!! hahahahaahahahahaahah

 

abner mares could be great

 

there's a lot...but the thread starter is a ******* soooooooooo..

 

I HEARD THAT .........atsch

 

I CAN CARE LESS about MARGE. if its truE THAT HE KNEW WHAT WAS IN THE GLOVES THEN PCUK HIM IN HIS NECK., but manny has fought his share of TOMATO CANS.and my OPINION HE WAS GIFTED IN TWO FIGHTS WITH JMM.manny has a lot riding on this fight with PBF.if he loses then we will know that he was a FRAUD ISN'T THAT WHAT PACNUTS SAY PBF IS.HE COULD NOT BEAT A FRAUD SO THAT WILL MAKE HIM ONE ON MARCH 13...:smoke

 

and another thing guy I WAS NEVER A CHAVEZ FAN AND I ONLY HAVE ONE IDOL AND THAT IS MY MAN ABOVE ME.I WILL NEVER HAVE ANOTHER PERSON AS A IDOL.THATS WHY THAT COUNTRY HAS SO MANY DISASTERS BECAUSE THEY BELEIVE IN IDOLS.atsch

 

scar believes in ****ing camels

 

I WONDER IF TWO HUMPS IS BETTER THAN ONE:huh

 

scar..........:bbb :boxer...............freddy


opme.

I love this stuff........like
Barrera and Morales. :yep

 

I posted this in other thread...its a breakdown of how i compare Whitaker and PBF against chavez if someone interested...

People who say PBF would dominate chavez the way whitaker and taylor did i dont see how you cant see that whitaker style and taylor were very different styles, first taylor dominated chavez because of his workrate and i know he didnt have very good defense thats why he took a beating and **** blood, broken ribs etc while he was winning the fight until the ko came, PBF doesnt have the half of workrate that taylor had(and i am a FMJ FAN) so i dont think thats an advantage for floyd... Now lets see whitaker defense compared to FMJ defense(i do believe sweetpea beat chavez)... i think sweetpea defense was all wrong for chavez, whitaker is the kind of guy that slips punches while he is countering attacking or anything while still moving and not staying in the pocket, he goes in and out with his jab and as you saw in the chavez fight he never stayed in the pocket, is the kind of defense that a fighter like chavez couldnt cut the ring because of sweetpeas footwork now compared to FMJ, yes pbf has excellent defense and one of the best atg but this is the kind of defense chavez can penetrate, pbf slip punches while staying in the pocket, back in the ropes, etc but his footwork is not compared with sweetpeas, but yes pbf uses his shoulder roll defense to handle staying in the pocket while sliping punches, the problem comes here, if you stay in the pocket against a fighter who is one of the best combination punchers(body-head) in history, even if you are great at sliping punches while staying in the pocket he will break your defense, what a boxer need to win rounds against a guy like chavez is just what sweet pea did, slip punches while running(footwork) so you dont let the guy cut the ring but thats not the way pbf defense work like i am telling you thats why i think jcc would be able to cut pbf the ring and penetrate his defense because even an excellent defense like pbf if you stay in the ropes or in the pocket against jcc he will penetrate your defense, jcc is not a head hunter, he throws cominations to the body and head, i do believe he would get caught by mayweather counter style but jcc workrate would make enough to win the close rounds and later in the fight he would break fmj down(i am not syaing ko, it might though)...
Another thing i dont agree with some people who say chavez was very slow, hell no, i am not saying he is as fast as fmj but i guess this thread is based on chavez prime not the one who faced whitaker who had lost a lot of speed, you can see his early fights, he wasnt slow, he wasnt very fast but he was above average fast, then you say he had poor defense, i really think jcc defense is one of the most underrated things here in esb, i think people needs to realize that there are fighters who come forward but still have a very good defense, and yes most of them doesnt have a very good defense(a very good example from the actuality is cotto) but there are ones with a very tought defense who gets in without getting caught cleanly, blocking and slipping some punches(the perfect example for this would be iron mike tyson), i am not saying jcc defense was as goog as tyson but you should rewatched some jcc tapes, i know you have watched plenty of his fights but most of the times you are so busy watching him how he comes forward that you dont realize how good he was as getting in without getting caught cleanly, most of the times he sacrifized being hit by a jab but he block or slip the biggest punches and when he was already inside he used his shoulder to block pretty much every hook the fighter throw at him, and the same shoulder was being use to open the opponent defense to follow with great combos to the body and head, so no i dont think he had bad defense, i think he had a very good defense, the main point why he got caught plenty of times against taylor was because of taylor workrate jcc looked like he was frustated by that and he got into a war and started throwing more combos without noticing he was getting caught with lots of punches but his chin made him the winner that night, but if you actually give space and time to try to get in(the way pbf does) jcc will get in without getting caught cleany, you frustrate him with workrate not letting him going forward with low workrate(thats what jcc used to like) and adding jcc chin to the table i think you know pbf punches wouldnt heart chavez so i think style favors chavez in this fight winning a not wide but clear decision possible ko in the late rounds(11, 12)...JMHO !!

And for the record I am huge fan of whitaker and chavez, i am a pbf fan and i respect pac...I also saw whitaker win against chavez and because of styles i would say whitaker decisions chavez prime at any weight and i do like a lot chavez just that styles makes fights...

 

more like chavez vs haugen.........

 

Chavez would have broken Void's ribs and knocked him out. Look what Chavez did to Roger.