Whitaker vs. De La Hoya - Who Won and Scores

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  1. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Sweet Pea is one of my favourite fighters and I have all his fights on dvd - I've never been more frustrated watching him fight. Clowning around was part of his style from his pro debut but he always made sure (especially post-Ramirez) that he was in a position to counter and let his hands go. He just didn't do it against Oscar.

    Still, even obviously past his best, he showed flashes of what a great fighter he was.
     
  2. gooners!!

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    WBC ruling dictated that a point must be taken from the uncut fighter whether unintentional or not, so they took a point from Pea.

    DLH was judged to have gone down on what looked like a dubious call but he was still deducted a point never the less.


    So they both had a point taken.
     
  3. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    114-113 Whitaker, although if I watched it again, I could give it to DLH. Frustrating fight to score.
     
  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's how I saw it, too. Given Whitaker's ring IQ and experience, I have to believe that Pernell knew he had to throw more to get the win given the circumstances. That he didn't tells me one: he was more worried about trading with Oscar than people might assume.

    That said, I scored it for Oscar in a close fight.
     
  5. Golden Boy 360

    Golden Boy 360 Boxing's Biggest Cash Cow Full Member

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    yeah i remember merchant complaining about something along those lines
     
  6. essexboy

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    Might have scored a round even, something like that.
     
  7. gooners!!

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    Agree. I dont think Pea fought aggressively enough in many of his bigger fights. If we watched him against Haugen, Brazier, Cordona, Mayweather, Ramirez 2 he would counter them repeatdely, often staying the pocket or inside against Mayweather, Haugen, Brazier.

    When he fought Ramirez 1, Chavez, DLH and even Nelson he chose to get on his bike and do it all from long range. That hurt him against 3 of those fighters imo, even though he clearly beat Ramirez.
     
  8. gooners!!

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    I agree with this.

    I like Pernell and say it quietly but i think he is one of the top 3 most skilled fighters ever. However when he fought Oscar he did not defend his title, its okay saying you have to take the title from the Champ but in my own opinion you also have to defend your title to a degree, Whitaker did not do that for me, having said that even though i felt DLH won by 1/2 rounds i dont think he did not enough to take the title from Whitaker either.
     
  9. Sweet Pea

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    Whitaker was the one fighting on the front foot behind the jab for the most part. He out-threw, out-landed, and landed at a higher percentage than De La Hoya while controlling the ring. The only official category Hoya got him in was power-punching, where the Compu-Box stats are shaky to say the least, as he certainly didn't seem to land nearly as many as they claimed.

    I've had Whitaker by at least two points both times I've watched it. No doubt a very close fight, though.
     
  10. Sweet Pea

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    Nelson won two rounds at most. That was one of Pea's best performances.
     
  11. 1 Hitta Quitta

    1 Hitta Quitta Active Member Full Member

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    Oscar may just be the most overrated fighter of all time.
     
  12. Thread Stealer

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  13. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :nono The opposite guy! I think he has actually become underrated!
     
  14. Thread Stealer

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    Underrated and overrated is so subjective...who's doing the rating?

    A big name fighter like Oscar is discussed so often, he's naturally going to be both overrated and underrated.
     
  15. ripcity

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    De La Hoya won it is a matter of record. However I think it was closer than the scores. I thinkit was one of those bouts that could have gone either way.