Whitaker vs. De La Hoya - Who Won and Scores

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  1. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought pernell won but Oscar Got it and it is what it is.
    Pernell wanted it he shouldve took it, Close fights can go either way championship rounds come you better take them all close any gaps if your going leave it in the refs hands
     
  2. 1 Hitta Quitta

    1 Hitta Quitta Active Member Full Member

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    I credit him for winning the olympics and never backing down from nobody. Every real man here has to appreciate Oscar's heart, but in reality he really didnt accomplish much as you would think he had. Lets take a look ok? :deal


    -His 3 greatest victories are against 2 past prime fighters(Whitaker, Chavez) and an underachieving steroid abuser that everyone else beat(Vargas). If you say Whitaker or Chavez was in their primes you need to ****en beat yourself to death with the nearest blunt object laying next to you.

    -He almost lost to Quartey and STURM(Should have lost to Sturm this was very embarrassing to DLH, sad day)

    -He lost to Trinidad. No matter why and how, he still lost a fight he should and could have won. No excuses, its an L.

    -He lost to Mosley twice.

    -He lost to the larger man Hopkins first AND tried to go small and lost to the two smaller men Mayweather and Pacquaio.

    -He beat Mayorga but thats not saying much.


    So really why is he underrated once again?
     
  3. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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    I had it 114-114, but only because of the very questionable point deduction from Whitaker. The point deduction was for an unintentional head butt. It was a W.B.C. rule. I don't know if they still have that rule or not. Either way, Whitaker would've won on my card if not for that.
     
  4. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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    Like I said, I had it 114-114, but I would love to score it again.
     
  5. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I thought Whitaker won clear. Not by a big margin but clear enough

    JCC on the other hand was a total robbery.
     
  6. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    I scored it 115-112 for DLH. Kind of close, by I couldn't fathom giving Whitaker any more than a draw.

    but i will be honest, I never liked Whitakers style, and didn't think his offense was effective in quite a few fights. A lot of pitty pat jabs, running and very few punches that stopped his opponent or got them to go backwards. I just don't score those punches as high as lets say one hook, that makes a fighter stop and reset..

    Keith
     
  7. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very simplistic view, but oh well. I'm tired of this topic, this exact thread was posted last week and got deleted when it reached the same number of pages as this one.

    Anyway, Whitaker was THE man at welter when DLH beat him.
     
  8. 1 Hitta Quitta

    1 Hitta Quitta Active Member Full Member

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    lol

    He was the man and after he "lost" to DLH he never won another fight again? Let me guess DLH ended his career from the brutal beating he gave?

    :patsch
     
  9. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was the linear champ at welterweight.

    However, with Whitaker's poor showings in two of his previous three fights going into the De La Hoya fight, many figured Whitaker was on the way down and that Trinidad (and arguably Ike) had surpassed him as the best WW in the world. DLH wasn't a favorite over the great Whitaker merely because of his talent level, it was also because of Whitaker's recent showings.
     
  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I keep thinking I must have seen this fight at the time but believe it or not...I cannot remember one thing about this fight. Not one, let alone having scored it or not and how. I need a serious refresher course on this fight.
     
  11. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you are right on! Pernell made oscar look like an amateur and he totally owned chavez
     
  12. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    De La Hoya won in my opinion, probably by a round or two.
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Very weird, I hadnt seen this fight in almost a year but decided to watch it last night (along with Chacon/Boza-Edwards II & SRR/Maxim but thats another topic).... I tried scoring it again & came up with the same things.....
    1. Most rds were too difficult to pick a winner in.
    2. There was no superiority shown throughout by either fighter as neither really deserved to win over the other.
    3. The judges scores were far too wide despite the difficulty in scoring the fight.
    4. It was definitely no robbery either way.
    5. Whitaker would have beat Oscar anytime up until the 2nd McGirt fight.
    6. Whitaker was the far greater boxer in their primes.

    Ps. Their were too many rds I couldnt decide but watching the fight as a whole, a draw was 100% the fairest result.

    :good
     
  14. lolb

    lolb Active Member Full Member

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    I had Whitaker winning just but can't remember the scores, I'll have to watch it again. Very close fight
     
  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Getting embarrassed by a man half your size - regardless of how good that man is - doesnt help either. He deserves that **** IMO.