George Chuvalo vs Wladimir Klitschko - 15 rounds

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  1. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    I figured since someone made a thread about Wlad destroying Ali in a mythical matchup then this is a fair question. Klitschko is not an exceptionally aggressive fighter. Even though Chuvalo was relatively easy to hit this probably remains the same. We already know that Wlad could not hurt the Cro Magnon man. I think Frazier was probably the only fighter that really hurt Chuvalo. Frazier made him wince in agony by a punch that I believe shattered either Chuvalo's orbital bone or cheekbone. Could Wlad continue to punish Chuvalo to the head for 15 rounds without wilting himself? Would he force a stoppage or would Chuvalo rally late to kayo an exhausted Wlad? I am not trying to be a smartass or bash Wlad. I see Chuvalo as being better than a lot of the contenders are now. Theoretically it should be Klitschko easily outboxing the lumbering Chuvalo. But because of his incredible stamina, the fact that Klitschko does not try to put anyone away until absolutely certain it is safe, and his impregnable chin this could be more competitive than people think especially if it was for 15 rounds instead of 12.
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Wlad has excellent stamina. Chavalo is too small, too slow, and really was not much of a one punch guy. Chavalo is tough, but the two best punchers he fought TKO'd him early. I'll go with Wlad to win via wide decsion or later round TKO with Chavalo still on his feet.
     
  3. Boxed Ears

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    Interestingly, I've heard Chuvalo went into the Frazier fight with an existing injury relating to his being stopped. If that's true, it's certainly no wonder he got hurt, I saw that fight and he was definitely in bad shape, only time I've seen him just turn away from his opponent like that if I remember correctly. Also, if it's true, going against Frazier injured was a move that would reflect more on his sense than on his chin.

    With the Foreman fight, he always said he wasn't hurt and that his wife was screaming and his manager or whatever started reacting to the wife and the ref reacted to him and stopped it. That's what Chuvalo said in an interview at the HOF gathering. I don't know if it was that or that Foreman was scary as hell and hauling away at Chuvalo for life. Chuvalo even said to the ref, as reported by more than Chuvalo "What are you, nuts?'' when he called it.

    At any rate, Chuvalo's head would probably break both of Wlad's hands...But Wlad would probably out-box him and be too good on his feet and not let Chuvalo get inside. Although if he did, Chuvalo really could punch. Ask Ali. He peed some good blood after their fights. One or both. If it was pre-Steward Wlad, I'd i've Chuvalo a very good chance, by the way.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

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    Oh, and have you heard George's comments about Wlad? :lol:
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Foreman pummelled Chuavlo in the corner with no answer and couldn't shift him.

    I say Wlad points in a boring, scrappy fight.
     
  6. mcvey

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    This would not be pretty .Wlad would pick off the slow moving Canadian allmost at will,and if George got inside the bigger man would clinch till the ref pulled them apart.Wlad has too much for Chuvalo ,who does not possess the equalizer of a big ko punch.The only redeeming feature would be Chuvalo's bravery.
    Easy points win or late stoppage ,due to the ref stepping in to save Chuvalo from becoming a human hamburger.
     
  7. Boxed Ears

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    Chuvalo had enough power to knock Wlad out if Puritty did, I think. But, yeah, since Wlad's peaked, I don't know if he could actually get there without getting clinched and neutralized. But earlier, he could have.
     
  8. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Wlad by decision. 10-2 scorecard. 75-80/25-20 Odds in favor of Wlad.

    Over 15 rounds, it's almost a pick em due to Wlad's stamina (I favor Wlad though).
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :huh
     
  10. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    The offense oriented Wladimir could without question stop Chuvalo on his feet.

    I don't know if there's a heavyweight in history who could just soak up the beating that Wladimir unleashed on Ray Mercer. Those were some of the cleanest, move devestating punches at HW that I've ever seen.

    Chuvalo stays on his feet, sure. But if he soaks up that kind of a abuse the ref is going is have to stop the fight.
     
  11. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Spot on.

    Chuvalo could beat the pre-2004, agressive Wlad, but even there i think a Wlad-Mercer-esque fight with Chuvalo stopped on his feet is more likely.
     
  12. mr. magoo

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    This is a mismatch. The only two serious punchers that Chuvalo ever fought, stopped him and both were still a ways from reaching their best at the time, while neither had the collosal size advantage over Chuvalo that Wlad would have. I wouldn't even pick the green Wlad who lost to Purity to get beaten by George as I don't feel he had the power or type of left hook attack that Purity had.
     
  13. round15

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    Wow, everyone here writing off the big Canadian as if he'd fight with his face and get stopped without winning a round?

    Well, I'll give George the credit deserved in these fantasy matchups. Either Klitschko brother would realize that they'd be in a serious fight after the first round with a prime Chuvalo, late mid-late 60s. Neither of them are stopping him or flooring him, and it wouldn't surprise me to see Chuvalo floor both of these guys early. Frazier, Foreman, Ali and others said Chuvalo has power in both fists and he wasn't no pushover as some are suggesting in this thread.

    Chuvalo still believes he might have been able to get to Foreman if he was allowed to actually fight. It's not like he was in serious trouble on the ropes and in danger of being floored before the ref stopped the fight. Everyone knows Foreman slows down and runs out of gas approaching the middle rounds. With Frazier, it was a different story because the left hook that ruptured his eye socket and blew a vessel was deadly and it could have been the result of an injury sustained before the fight which I've also heard.

    No way does either Klitschko beat Chuvalo easily, but by reach and boxing skills alone, I'd expect close, decisions victories for both with George threatening the entire fight.
     
  14. Boxed Ears

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    Sorry, I consider Williams, Patterson and Bonavena to all be serious punchers.
     
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Sorry, but punchers as they may have been, they weren't on the level of anyone who matters in this discussion......