No, beating fellow heavyweight greats proves he is 'the greatest' - remind me, how many heavyweight greats did Tyson beat who were in their prime? TBH I believe it is Tyson who is looked at through 'rose tinted glasses'.
So exactly who did Ali beat in his prime, taking away the wee 13 stone men, that includes Patterson, the geat white hopes(less), Foreman over-rated, Norton over-rated. A prime Lewis would have burst Ali as well, although we will never know, but everybody knows I'm right
I think we have late candidate for the worst post of the year...atsch Very mature. My 4 year old nephew uses a similar statement when he's playing up as well.
That everyone knows he's right, when there are quite obviously people that are telling him they think he's wrong?
Tyson is overrated imo, and there are blueprints on how to beat the guy, but RJJ ain't got them. Not many worse match ups for him. What young Tyson did he did well, and only a handful of fighters in history have the attributes and size to deal with him. Could see RJJ stick and moving for a while before Tyson catches up with him and smashes him to pieces in 3.
Cause I aint suckin Alis balls and saying he is the greatest I am the worst poster of the year, away and dont talk pish mate. ****in Lemming. I think Ali was over-rated, and he DID fight a lot of guys past their best, and smaller guys who would be cruiserweight now. Go back and watch some of his GREAT fights against all time GREATS, ****in embarassing some of them. Next you will be telling me Marciano was a technically great fighter There was a smillie face next to my post mate, tongue in cheek as it were, so wind your neck in
Top 20 ATG Heavyweights he fought (IMO): George Foreman Joe Frazier x3 Sonny Liston x2 Ken Norton x3 Floyd Patterson x2 Larry Holmes World ranked contenders he fought: Earnie Shavers Jimmy Young Henry Cooper x2 Joe Bugner x2 Ron Lyle George Chuvalo x2 Jerry Quarry x2 Zora Folley Cleveland Williams Oscar Bonavena Brian London Ernie Terrell Bob Foster Trevor Berbick Good contenders he fought: Doug Jones Chuck Wepner Buster Mathis Mac Foster Sonny Banks Archie Moore (even a very old Moore was a good name on his record, considering when he fought him) Richard Dunn Leon Spinks Find me a heavyweight with a better record :thumbsup
Well played :happy And thanks to all for kicking the verbal **** out of me during the beginning of this thread.....................I still think RJJ would've had a chance. END
It's fun to debate these things but ultimately, Roy would have no chance. None whatsoever. Not even a 'punchers chance'. It would be an impossibility.
Hi Roy. Get some rest, your still hurting from the knockout loss to a B- Cruiserweight. You'll have a clearer head in the morning.
This is turning too much about Ali's record, heres a little video that kind of backs up what i said. Tyson would have had to land a KO punch to beat jones IMO, would he have been able to land that punch on a prime RJJ??? Watch the video and you'll see, fair enough none of these are anything near Tyson, but he takes some huge punches that he would never have taken once he came down from hw. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UEtWnFFaZs&feature=player_embedded[/ame]