The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Phenix

    Phenix Capo Full Member

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    You missing the whole point. For instance one drug that I am not going to name only stays in your urine for 72 hours, however, it stays in your blood stream a lot longer. We are not talking about storage, we are talking about giving a sample and immediatly testing. I have never taken a drug test and they said they are going to store it and test it years down the line, what sense would that make.
     
  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One drug that you're not going to name, lol yea ok. This is the logic of a hater, saying this is bad but I won't tell you what it is and you can't verify it just trust me.

    Hey einstein, they store all samples. When better testing methods become available, they will pull your urine and test it. If you come up positive, well HELLO they caught you. This way cheaters will get caught, whether its now or later.
     
  3. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I will ask this question again, if urine is so accurate then why and how to did mosley pass these test???
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was using it before they came up with the testing methodology. You should google Balco. Essentially, a whisperer coach sent WADA a syringe with the drug in it. It took them some months to test and confirm it was a designer roid. They then came up with a methodology to test urine for it. Voila, the NFL, NHL, USOC, etc etc all adopt the methodology. Boxing needs to follow course.

    When Sugar went public he wasn't caught yet, but the writing was on the wall. Balco was being investigated due to the syringe that was found. Since Balco was shutdown by the feds, many athletes were connected to Balco including RJJ. An example of an athlete that maintained her innocence was Marion Jones. She kept going with the charade until the feds finally proved that she was hooked deep into Balco, and the USOC stripped her of all her records and wins, olympic medals back to 2001.

    So you see, Shane is a smart fellow. He talked to the feds and fessed up.
     
  5. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    Roids don't make you into Pacquiao.
     
  6. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    I know you're a ****ing dumbass,



    Im so sick of this ****.

    99% of boxers and boxing fans dont know JACK **** about anabolic steroids, performance enhancers, and supplements. Completely ignorant on the subject, and all they know is that "steroids make you muscular" and some other stupid sound byte **** they heard working out in the gym.
     
  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    BTW, Sugar Shane Mosley was a diehard mother****ing cheddar. Dude was on THG and EPO. He was doping the **** up up and up and up.

    The other thing about hardcore cheddars, is that they need a friggen laboratory to support them. You can't be joe schmo # 300,001 and use EPO. You'll kill yourself. Blood doping is serious high level ****.
     
  8. h2hkiller

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    I'm a Pac fan but I doubt if a **** test will reveal EPO, if that is what he's on. However, I'm pretty sure even if Pacman was on EPO, the CSAC should be able to pick that up.
     
  9. MexicanJew

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    Mosley probably still reaps the benefits of the EPO blood doping to this day. I have mixed feelings on the subject actually.

    Technically blood doping is not anabolic at all. But it obviously is not a natural performance enhancer, by any means.

    I would really like to know how much Mosley spent on the Balco treatments. It had to be in the tens of thousands.
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Just one question.....

    You are wanting Manny Paquaio to take a blood test before the proposed fight with Donald, because he has been ACCUSED!!! of taking steroids. How is it you werent demanding Shane Mosely take a blood test BEFORE the Margarito fight??? After all he was a PROVEN!! steroid abuser. The pee test proves nothing these days.
     
  11. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I doubt he's on EPO. EPO testing is indirect, since EPO is virtually untraceable. They check your blood for indicators of eleveated RBC's (red blood cells). Subjects with high RBC's have lowered levels of imature RBC's or was that WBC's? I forget but high RBC's throws your blood balance off. Plus, it makes you anemic.

    There are also EPO tests that use urine, and again its testing for precursors and indicators since pharmaceutical EPO is almost indistinguishable from natural hormones.

    Btw, you can die if your blood isn't stored correctly or you could contract blood disease, etc. You can also die from cardiac arrest because EPO raises your bloods viscosity, thickens your blood. Many cyclists die in their sleep when their heart rates are at their lowest... cuz their blood is thick like molasses.

    If he's on anything it would be THG or some variation.
     
  12. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    WADA defines illegal PED's as anything that does 2 of the 3, hurts you, improves performance, crap I can't remember the last one ah wait gives an unfair advantage.

    And example of naturally high RBC's is high altitude training. This is perfectly legal yet it gives you the same benefits of EPO. Pacquiao utilizes high altitude training every fight btw.

    I dunno how much Shane spent, but I'd say it was into the hundreds of thousands. These dudes are crooked doctors with labs and full scale bio **** going on.
     
  13. MexicanJew

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    Exogenous EPO can be detected in a blood test, as its protein structure is modified and is notably different from endogenous protein.


    Pacquiao isnt on EPO though. Its extremely expensive and getting the injections for it would be extremely difficult and rather obvious. Pacquiao life is pretty much an open book. Him going to a biomedicine lab every month would be picked up on rather quickly
     
  14. MexicanJew

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    Exogenous EPO can be detected in a blood test, as its protein structure is modified and is notably different from endogenous protein.


    Pacquiao isnt on EPO though. Its extremely expensive and getting the injections for it would be extremely difficult and rather obvious. Pacquiao life is pretty much an open book. Him going to a biomedicine lab every month would be picked up on rather quickly

    And like you said, training at high altitude yields the same benefits
     
  15. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Floyds are so paranoid, now they want special testing to protect them from lil' bad Pac. What's next after the blood test, a **** test?
     
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