The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. cloud_cyc

    cloud_cyc p4p demon Full Member

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    Reg cant get over with pac's recent sucess. he would want to see pac fail the test more than anything in this world...
     
  2. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The point Im making is that the boxing association is not able to keep up with the change in ped. I reported a year ago that I purchased off a vitamin store shelf a pro hormone supplement called M1T for 30 bucks. M1T turned out to be a very powerful ped, that showed results in a week time, I went from benching 320 to 340 with in 9 days and remember I bought this **** for 30 bucks!!
    Turned out that m1t was really winstrol with with the molecules moved around so it would undetectable urine test and could sold over the counter as vitamin supplement.

    With as primitive as boxing testing methods are, they would have never have caught a fighter taking this product, just like they didn't catch Mosley. If it weren't Blaco lose paper work, mosely would have never been a suspect at all, because according to boxing association methods mosley was clean.

    bottom line the boxing orgs methods suck, they lag behind every other sport major sport, and the athletes of those sport are continuing to think up ways to past PED test, I doubt it would be that hard for boxing to pass a test using peds if he has someone knowledgeable giving him the supplement.
     
  3. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the reality of supplements. They are not regulated by the FDA. They can be anything and they can kill you. I repeat they can kill you. Illegal steroids named funky body building names is a big business. If you're a pro athlete you can't exactly take a chance on an unknown drug with when you're career is on the line nor with your life. This is where THG comes in, or did when it was mostly a secret. It is the healthiest of the anabolics. And with that comes the espionage aspect of it, since you'd want a doctor or medical profession to direct your use.

    About the boxing standards, sure I agree they are behind. But if you read the papers on Mosley and Balco, the NSAC gives a high tolerance for anabolics. You have to ask why they let everyone measure high to begin with. However these are issues plaguing the standards, and it is fair to expect higher standards especially when most other US and international sports test for more exotic anabolics.
     
  5. MexicanJew

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    You purchased Methy-1 Testerone. Its standard 1-testerone that has been methylized in order to make it more bioavailable. Methylized testerone is in pill form of course.

    By itself it wont elevate testerone levels enough to show up on a conventional urine test.

    M1T is now illegal in the US actually.

    You can purchase M1T as 1-Andro-Rx. Its an Androstene with added alkyl groups that converts to 1-testerone. Not quite as bioavailable, but taking a higher dosage yields the same effects


    Did you notice any side effects at all from taking it? Bloating, lethargy, stomach aches. Any "roid rage" effects, maybe you felt more aggressive?
     
  6. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lots of pro athletes were taking this supplement, and they are taking the next stage of it also and it also not detectable. Pro athletes, trainers, and nutritionist make it their business to know what out there, these guys aren't dummy. Body builders and nutritionist are nothing more then chemist that know how to manipulate the bodies hormones for a specific result, this is why its so hard to keep up with these guys. The boxing association ether does not care or it too much money to on the table for them to buck the system..
     
  7. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    There is no way to change the current testing system. The only way this happens is if boxing is govern by 1 body. In the current state, who is going to pay for these test? We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars.
     
  8. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sure, but what's your point though? We know testing isn't infallible and it will always be a game of cat and mouse. No one would have known about THG if it wasn't leaked. Much ado about nothing.

    Any arguments made about one athlete on designer roids can be made about any other athlete, it's only fair right? Maybe this is why the NSAC has such high thresholds on their testing?
     
  9. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Very very true. A professional bodybuilder, or a knowledge performance athletic trainer, they will know the chemical specifics of pro-hormone PED's and hormonal precursors.

    The real trick to it is knowing how the drugs are metabolized. If you know that, you can easily get around standard testing. Conte at Balco learned that early on. He would design his PEDs to be undetectable by doing urine analysis and seeing what specific formulas would show up and which ones didnt.

    The BALCO drugs were not the most effective in terms of actual performance enhancement. But they were essentially designed to be completely undetectable. Their benefits in comparison to direct injection anabolics were middling, but that was actually an advantage to the athletes that used them. Had the effects been too extreme it would have been hugely obvious the clients were on something.

    That said, Bonds still blew up like a mother****er. :lol:
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bonds, oh you mean Steve Austin?
     
  11. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes there is some bloating, but everyone body react deferentially, I didn't get aches or any of the side effect reported. the only effect I notice was a big jump in strength, and size at that point I new it was not legal. At that point I stopped taking it and did some research and this is what I found.

    .. Some guys were taking it with out pro hormones and getting synergic effect which they call a dry gain meaning no bloating, but big jump in weight 10 to 15 pound with the right diet. Taking PCT is a must to avoid detection and to keep your own body hormone from crashing into the toilet.
    This supplement is not for beginner, people who buy these supplement know what they are doing.
     
  12. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haha! and it creates more worries for the Mayweather camp. Roach really got into their minds.:rofl
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

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    If any sanctioning body or state commission wants to make it official policy, then that's fine. But until then, there's no reason to suspect this is any more necessary this fight then it was any of Floyd's previous fights. If Floyd wants to **** with the negotiating over a rumor HIS DAD made, then he'll continue looking like a fool in the public arena.
     
  14. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Point is, its about time someone said the boxing commission is behind the times.

    Both fighter taking drug test, its a good thing and would only make the sport better.
     
  15. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    The bottom line is they agreed to drug testing...both camps. To not comply fully is suspect...period.
     
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