Is it better to rank fighters without watching them?

So now you're insinuating that noone ever saw Greb fight? Did these fights between himself and his opponents take place in back alleys where they decided to settle their dispues together, with noone else around? How stupid are you? Really?

 

Well the footage of Langford paints him as a very good offensive fighter. Coupled with his GUARANTEED and PROVEN toughness and he'd be a handful for any fighter, regardless of era.

And it's not 'ranking someone because of an interesting style'; by watching a fighter you can get a gauge of how good they are. Not only can you see WHO they beat but HOW they beat them.

As I always put it; 'It's how you seperate the Sven Ottke's from the ATG's':good

Now **** off to the General, you're a waste of thread space. I'd prefer Cotto20 to you

 

If I listened to most people's accounts of Myung-Woo Yuh he was a talentless work horse. Video footage educated me further.

 

Just stfu and watch 'The last unicorn' for the 86th time.

 

Those 'in the know' would not have said solol::good

 

Some of those are from a writer in a Korean Boxing magazine. Who cares if video footage shows he did have snap in his punches, he did throw with great technique, he had above average hand speed, and the part about the first De Jesus I fight being controversial is a joke. He won every round bar 2. How can we properly determine which sources are credible, this one seemed credible enough...but then you watch the footage for yourself and you realise this guy was just talking **** really.

 

No, as Mantequilla said when you first posted that, that writer is very, VERY negative, and unjustly so.

 

Hold up. He's referencing a writer in a credible Boxing magazine to. What's to be said about that?

 

Okay.

When I studied Media, I was always told 'check out all sources' to see just where they're coming from.

Maybe that guy has just used another negative source to back up his own? Have you found any positive accounts on there, showing that it WASN'T the concensous at the time?

I just find it very hard to believe anyone could believe that. There's so many inaccuracies with what we actually know to be truie (by watching Yuh fight) that I have to assume the writer had another agenda.

 

This is my point, Flea. I couldn't have had a good perspective on how good Yuh was until I saw him fight for myself.

 

Oh, and I agree no doubt.

This is my point with Greb; AS GOOD AS HE SOUNDS. AS GOOD AS HIS OPPONENTS LOOK. AS GOOD AS HE APPARENTLY BEAT THEM.

We can never know HOW GOOD. Because we've never seen him fight. I do rank him however based on his unbelievable resume; but I find it extremely hard to judge how he would do against the likes of Hagler and Monzon.

 

It's true, but I suppose if we have footage of his opposition that he beat...that's pretty damn solid.

 

Agree, which is why I rank him. Being the only man to beat Gene Tunney lets us know just how EFFECTIVE he was.