Good Thing These Fights Never Happened ...

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Boxing is a brutal sport but once in a while things play out right and fights that could of happened did not and we are all better off for them .. two come to my mind ...

    Foreman / Tyson and Frazier/Patterson ... both would have resulted in terrible beatings for the former champs and simply the luck of fate kept them from becoming realities ...
     
  2. Boxed Ears

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    I...don't know about that.
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    The comebacking Foreman, despite all his bravado , would have been crushed by Tyson...
     
  4. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree. Even a slightly gone off Tyson. It was a style thing. From the early 90's on,old versions of Foreman and Holmes could give Holyfield a battle,while Holyfield had Tyson's number. Tyson though would have massacred George.
     
  5. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet it is a fact that when King kept pressing Tyson to fight Big George, Tyson said, "**** you! You fight him if you love him so much!" Tyson was schooled from early on by D'Amato to NEVER fight a man with George's style because Tyson was made to order for him.:hat Foreman takes his heart and stops him in 5.
     
  6. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Marciano/Patterson would've been brutal.
     
  7. Jaws

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    I have yet to see anything to substantiate that King wanted Tyson/Foreman but Tyson refused. People forget how HUGE Tyson was at the time, and what a circus sideshow Foreman was seen as (he did end up proving himself and having an impressive comeback). Tyson had much bigger fish to fry. There was nothing to gain from beating an old Foreman. And he would have blasted him out anyway.

    I also disagree Tyson was made to order for Foreman. Tyson is not Frazier. They are both shorter, and aggressive, but the similarities end there.
     
  8. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is indeed a good thing for former little boy champion Tyson that he succeeded in blatantly ducking Big Man George.

    Foreman would have been huge money for Tyson. Mike had no qualms about wiping out an aging rusty Holmes for a relatively quick and easy payday, so why did he fail to even acknowledge George's repeated challenges, issued by Foreman himself in the ring after several televised wins (much to the delight of the fans)?

    George said he was not willing to take on Lewis, but wanted Tyson in the worst way. At no time did Mike ever believe he could defeat Foreman, or this match would have come off beyond any doubt. Patterson himself made the decision to defend the title against Liston. The only obstacle to a huge promotion between Foreman and Tyson was Tyson alone, because Mike fully expected to get the **** beaten out of him, and decided no amount of money was worth that humiliation (or worse).
     
  9. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    I would have thought so - that short fighters who Foreman can shove around and unload on with uppercuts aren't exactly his kryptonite.
     
  10. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not sure about Tyson-Foreman, but Frazier-Patterson would've just been another Frazier-Ellis.
     
  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    90's Foreman beats Tyson I think, as crazy as that sounds.
     
  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :happy
     
  13. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    90s Foreman would have been throwing him all over the ring. Tyson would look like a boy tossing pebbles at a tank.
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Haha. I honestly feel he would beat Tyson. Once Tyson feels that power... oh boy. Remember his face when Holyfield caught him off balance to knock him down. He was demoralized and embarrassed, and that wasn't even a shot that hurt him or he felt. Old Foreman was a tank, with terrific strength and a great jab. Much more composed, but could unload in a dog fight if needed (Think Cooney vs Foreman). Honestly, I believe in Foreman's confidence. And had Douglas not beaten Tyson in Tokyo, I think Foreman beats him in 91 if it were Tyson in front of him and not Evander. Comeback George had such power and what a chin. The strength in his arms, legs, and punches, coupled with his newly improved stamina (Due to fighting indoors and stopping the ritual draining) I just have trouble seeing Tyson beat him. Weirdly enough, I almost think 90's George is even more made for Tyson than the 70's George. I think this version might fair a great chance, as crazy as that sounds.
     
  15. Boxed Ears

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    Although I think highly of Moorer, can you imagine how people would rate George if it was Tyson he regained the title from and not Moorer? It would have given Larry Holmes a GD heart attack.