Would u consider Oscar De La Hoya an ATG?

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  1. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    BS

    How was that a robbery when DLH ran from Trinidad for the last three rounds?


    Sure, Oscar was robbed in the Mosley rematch.

    Robbed by Mosley's right hand...
     
  2. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What? Of course he is. People rank differently and thats fine. But there ain't no 100 boxers who did what he did.

    Hernandez
    Chavez2x
    Whittaker
    Gatti
    Tito
    Vargas
    Castillejo
    Sturm
    Mosley2x
    Hopkins
    Mayorga
    Mayweather jr.
    Pacquiao

    Out of those guys he was clearly beaten twice. One Hop by a big middleweight who went for a recored 20 title defenses. The second Pac at an advanced physical state where he was a part time fighter and just didn't have the grit against a very hungry p4p no 1.
     
  3. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    No because he lost his big fights. You have to win the big fight to be an ATG.

    Mosley - lost
    Tito - Lost
    Hopkins - Lost
    Pac - Lost
    Mayweather - Lost
     
  4. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Had Oscar beat Pac that would have been way worse for him in the way he is remembered than had he won.
    Oscar went into this fight with the most cryptic attitude I ever seen in him, saying he was in a lose/lose position.
    You see the hate coming on Floyd for Marquez, magnify that by ten times.
     
  5. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    with or without fish nets?
     
  6. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Who didn't see the PBF win over JMM coming? I have posted over and over on how that fight was a mismatch prior to it happening.

    Back to DLH. DLH saw it as easy money and an easy win. 20 million dollars will make a man do lots of strange things. Had he won it woudn't have done anything to his resume because everyone was expecting a DLH win.
     
  7. BRIT08

    BRIT08 P4P Full Member

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    :-(no chance.

    Every top contender he`s faced, he`s lost.
     
  8. darling dame

    darling dame Active Member Full Member

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    Oscars a great salesman,also boxing fans of today arent what they were in the 60s
     
  9. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Absolutely not. He was handed everything on a silver platter starting in the olympics and never stepped up in the big fights.
     
  10. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There aren't many ATG's in the past 15-20 years in boxing period. With less fanfare, Winky and Forrest were much better fighter's than Mosley, Trinidad, and De La Hoya and no one considers them to be ATG's. Those three boxers are good hall of fame fighters but not ATG's.
     
  11. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course he's an ATG. He won titles in 6 weight class and beat many good fighters on his way up.
     
  12. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :patsch so the chavez sr fights and whitaker wasn't a big fight? Vargas? The guy fought the best of the best and he won and loss some.
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    of course he is. a question like this only serves to identify the haters and the ignorant boxing fans in the crowd.
     
  14. Nay_Sayer

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    Both Whitaker and Chavez were Ole men and Vargas had already been brutally KO'ed by Tito. Plus, Whitaker made DLH look like a rank amature.

    Not the kind of stuff here that makes one an ATG fighter...
     
  15. Nay_Sayer

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    Ok Mr Boxing Guru;

    Maybe you would like to explain exactly WHO did ole Fish Nets beat to make him an ATG?