Why is Bhop still ranked #4 P4P?

/don flamesuit

So why is Bhop still #4 on the P4P rankings?
Not taking away from his career, which is awesome, but looking at his recent career. I mean, recent achievements should be the factor for P4P lists, right? Otherwise why isn’t SRR #1 currently?
Bhop has had a mediocre career for the last 5 years. That must be enough time for him to start slipping down the rankings.
We are about to start 2010. Let’s look at all Bhop has done since the start of 2005

Beat Howard Eastman. Good win. Not a great win. Eastman was really decent – but not great.
Lost to Jermaine Taylor.
Lost again to Jermain Taylor.
Beat Tarver. Good win. Not a great win. I would have put Tarver in the top 5 of the LHW division at that time.
Beat Winky Wright. Good win. Not a great win. Beat a really good fighter, just a smaller one.
Lost to Joe Calzaghe.
Beat Kelly Pavlik. Good win. Not a great win. Beat a good fighter, just a smaller one.
Beat Ornelas. Who?

So in the last 5 years he has had 3 wins 3 losses against meaningful opponents. That is hardly the stuff dreams are made of.
His 3 losses were close, and were to very good fighters. His 3 wins were good, but two of them were to smaller men, and one to Tarver who was losing a lot of weight and who was hardly the man at LHW anyway.

Looking at the last 5 years, Bhop has really had a mediocre run. 3 wins, 3 losses that matter. Yet he seems to be nailed to the #4 ranking. Other guys are having to earn their places – yet he stays based on what is becoming ancient history.

No wonder he won’t take on Dawson!
No wonder he is looking to take on Danny Green!

Fine, he has earned the right to fight just for cash now, and be damned with how good his opposition are. But someone who is doing that is not worthy of a place in the current P4P rankings. His position in the HoF etc aren’t gonna be affected by his current mediocrity. But why, oh why, are we ranking him #4 P4P?

Maybe, just maybe, if we were to treat him like everyone else, he may actually take on a meaningful fight or two before retiring...

 

Really?

Because there are a lot of people who think otherwise. There is an assumption that he is avoiding Dawons because of a real possibility of losing.

Would he lose? I don't know. But seeing as he is not proving himself, and has not for a while, surely he has to start slipping down the rankings?

 

The sort of post I'd expect from a worthless and braindead **** like you.

I agree that his losses were close ones, and that some people even scored them as wins to him. If you scored them for Hopkins then he has 7 wins in that time, 6 of them against good competition. You couldn't argue about his place then.

But most people accept that he lost those 3 fights.

So we have 3 wins, 3 losses.

Even if those wins were really solid, as you say they are, then is it enough to counteract his losses?

Also he may have been the underdog going into the fights... for some reason I don't recall him being the underdog but I am sure you are right anyway... but we can now look at this with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. How has Pavlik turned out? Not bad. How has Tarver gone? Nowhere really. Winky?

I loved watching him beat the bejesus out of Tarver. But Tarver was simply not all that relevant. He had been in a cluster**** merrygo round for the previous couple of years fighting no-one but Johnson and Jones. How can you tell how good someone is when they wont fight anyone else in the division for years at a time? And frankly going 1:1 with Johnson says that Tarver was good, not great. Bhop sure as hell proved that. Then there was his issue with dropping weight.

Winky was coming off a damn hot streak. Seriously, he had a **** hot run before he came up to fight Bhop. Yeah, that's a classy win. Sure, Winky could be considered a smaller man, but still I call it a damn good win.

So 3 losses, 3 wins. One of them I will change from being a good win to a great one. Winky. Tarver was only a good win. If you want to call Pavlik a great win - even with hindsight about how Pavlik has turned out (not bad, but not **** hot either), and given that there was two weight classes between them (I think, feel free to correct me if I get any facts wrong - he was still the smaller fighter)? I call it a good or very good win.

3 losses. 3 wins from good to great. It just isn't enough to have him nailed to the #4 spot.

 

No, You ave been posting like a ***** lately. I used to think you were a solid poster. What is with the sudden attitude change?

 

Sorry, I may have not been clear.

I don't think he should be outside the top ten. I think he should be slipping down the rankings a bit. I wouldn't have him outside the top ten.

Wold you agree that if he fights Danny Green next, and has not fought anyone else by June, that he may be more fairly placed at #6 or #7?