Punch Stats do not lie...Team Pac better have a plan B!

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  1. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    [FONT=&quot]These are punch stats that Floyd’s opponents had either right before they fought him, or right after they fought him. You see the difference in work rate? His defense discourages fighters from throwing their normal amount of punches and their accuracy is tremendously low. If you look at Manny’s stats and work rate against “toe to toe” fighters, it is high. Against JMM, a counter puncher, levels below Floyd, you see Manny’s punch output dropped by over 100 punches. Men lie, women lie, but numbers don’t. I do not see how anyone thinks that Manny will be able to impose himself on Floyd when NO one has been able to successfully. If breaking him down is the plan, I hope they have a plan b.[/FONT]

     [FONT=&quot] Marquez vs. Diaz 288/732 (9 rounds)[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] Marquez vs. Mayweather 70/583 [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] Hatton Vs Urango 258/755 [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] Hatton Vs Mayweather 63/372 [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] Hatton Vs Collazo 259/741 [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] De La Hoya Vs Forbes 253/810(after Mayweather fight)[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot] De La Hoya Vs Mayweather 122/587[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Pacquiao vs. Cotto 336/780[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Pacquiao vs. Diaz 230/788[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Pacquiao vs. JMM 157/619[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Pacquiao vs. JMM 157/619[/FONT]
     
    Zavy, Dec 22, 2009
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  2. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    say it brother!
     
    BrooklynMumin, Dec 22, 2009
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  3. bdman

    bdman Active Member Full Member

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    good post - sharp observation too
     
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  4. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac only needs one punch! Booom!

    G'night Floyd, It's nothing personal, I'm just doing my job.

    :)
     
    gungfu, Dec 22, 2009
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  5. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    Ever since the Hatton fight, Manny is a one punch ko machine??? Oh, and Floyd is that dude who has been ko'd by one punch, how many times? Next
     
    Zavy, Dec 22, 2009
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  6. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So pac is a one punch KO artist now :huh
     
    pit, Dec 22, 2009
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  7. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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    facts are a haters kryptonite.
     
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  8. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He seems to be a good puncher, ask Hatton, DLH and Cotto, they
    are maybe not defensive wizards but they are durable p4p fighters.
    PAC is fast and explosive somethings which Marquez is not, that
    may be a key to reach Mayweathers chin with a good punch.
     
    Stinky gloves, Dec 22, 2009
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  9. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd may not have been 100% in the following fight but nevertheless it's been done before to have higher percentages and if someone can connect more than the ones you mentioned it's Pacman. Even if Floyd's offense suffered because he wasn't 100%, his defence should have been better in that fight anyways....

    HERE ARE THE STATS FOR CASTILLO-MAYWEATHER I :

    The Punch Stats:​

    Castillo Mayweather
    203 Landed 157
    506 Thrown 448
    40% Percentage 35%​

    Power Punching Stats:​

    Castillo Mayweather
    173 Landed 66
    377 Thrown 151
    46% Percentage 44%​

    This content is protected
     
    pasky2000, Dec 22, 2009
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  10. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    See Marquez punch stats for Manny to get a small Idea of how he fairs against counter punchers.
     
    Zavy, Dec 22, 2009
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  11. Xavier

    Xavier Boxing Logician Full Member

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    There's this old thread that would be of interest to you guys - something like "Compubox makes Mayweather look like superman", or something like that.

    Though for whatever frikkin reason I'm having difficulty pulling it up on the search.
     
    Xavier, Dec 22, 2009
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  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Its been done in the past where a high-volume fighter fought a fighter who makes opponents drastically drop in output. Noone expects Pac to throw as many punches against Floyd as he did against Cotto.

    That doesn't mean he will not throw consistantly over 12 rounds.

    Look at Hopkins and Calzaghe. Hopkins always makes his opponents throw alot less punches than they are used to. Even more than Floyd. Calzaghe always throws alot of punches. Even more than Pacquiao. Hopkins made Calzaghe throw less punches than he is used to but Calzaghe still won that fight on his workrate.
     
    PH|LLA, Dec 22, 2009
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  13. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    I'll ask a question to you guys (who may have seen a lot more boxing fights than me):

    Give me an example where The B plan made a guy win?
     
    Little Pea, Dec 22, 2009
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  14. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    137/604...23% the next fight when Floyd was 100%...but I'm not talking about 7-8 year old fights. In addition, Castillo is naturally a pressure fighter...next
     
    Zavy, Dec 22, 2009
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  15. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Mayweather vs Judah
     
    PH|LLA, Dec 22, 2009
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