The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    You just do not get it. There's NO REASON to think Pac isn't clean. ****in paranoia... Who gives a **** about speculating,

    And I am against BOTH guys doing it because it's not a part of the policy of the state or ABC. And because I have no reason to suspect either of any wrongdoing. Sorry, I'm not a paranoid crackhead like Sr. If they make this a rule, then that's cool, I'm for it. But they should not agree to anything just because of someone being paranoid.
     
  2. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lol stupid
     
  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    lol...fail...if floyd wasn't gonna take the test i would say you have a point...

    But if kobe bryant, lebron james, michael phelps, and lance armstrong will undergo these tests than there is no reason why manny can't...floyd has already stated that he would take them...now manny needs to step up.

    As a fan i wanna see a level playing field as well...with all the athletes taking performance enhancers, manny is not an exemption...

    If floyd were demanding this **** while he, himself was saying he didn't have to than i would agree with you...

    Till than your post is a bunch of bull**** playa...get it right-manny is the one not wanting to take it...if he dont have **** to hide than he should take the test..
     
  4. AMERICANBORN

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    i would assume by olympic drug testing, that means they would go through the same set of standards olympians go through and that they would hire the World Anti-Doping Agency to perform their duties as they do for the olympics, and all of their testing rules and regulations are available on their website for anyone to read
     
  5. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
  6. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    what can you say, mayweather doesnt want the fight and will do whatever it takes to get out of it with him looking good from it.
     
  7. WeezyF27

    WeezyF27 Active Member Full Member

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    why not erase all doubts from everyones mind??
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Those guys go through with it because they have to. And like 99% of the floyd fans, you just don't get it. There's no reason to think Pac is on anything,
     
  9. BizarroRJJ

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    Thats all it is. Currently, Floyd is winning with the head games. Hear or read any boxers commentary long after their career is over; Ali, Foreman, Leonard: biggest bouts are sometimes won psychologically outside the ring. This fight will happen regardless of the testing or not. Its just head games. This fight is seen as potentially so close by both sides, they are grasping for any and every advantage.

    Also: every huge fight has some kind of drama. The more drama, the better for the promotion. Seeing how there is less than usual time for a full blown promotion for a fight of this magnitude, any little issue that can be blown up and picked up by the media, is GOLDEN....GOLDENBOY.
     
  10. 4themind

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    "Drug testing is already mandated in boxing. Such testing has proven sufficient to catch fighters such as Botha, Toney and Roy Jones, Jr., among others. That is, there's already a system in place for catching suspected cheats. And it's required."

    It is required, and it has caught some boxers, but that in and of itself does not necessarily mean that it is catching all of those who cheat. The USCO has a procedure in place(which apparently is a basis for this agreement), and their logic is, that if a fighter is subject to more tests and at RANDOM intervals MORE confidence may be instilled that a fighter is indeed clean(not conclusive proof still I should add)


    "Pacquiao isn't saying he won't be tested. He just doesn't want to have his blood drawn within a certain frame of time. If Pacquiao is such a cheater -- as some of Team Floyd suspects he is -- one would think he would surely be caught with post-fight testing as many others have been."
    I don't know what is going on in the minds of team mayweather but, they might say that such a positive test could depend on many factors. Such as timing cycles so that the drug clears out of the system before fight night, which is what the random testing requested from team mayweather is seeking to avoid perhaps. Again we don't know what manny has taken (In my uneducated opinion it very well may be nothing) but more tests at more random intervals may give mayweather MORE confidence that the fighter is clean, and as long as he accepts similar testing conditions himself,the standards are applied to both participants (as with manny's weight request)


    "Yet, no one has asked Mosley or Ward to take the test which Floyd is asking Manny to participate in now. That seems unfair and illogical."


    That's really something that has to be assessed by whomever is fighting them(i.e. potential opponents of Berto and mosley), until a more stringent testing system is established by a commission. As it stands now it depends upon the boxer's own assessment of risk, which no one else can make for them. Mayweather has the legal right to ask for any type of testing conditions that he desires, while manny has the right to ask for any weight penalty that he wants. Both have the right to refuse the others demands. One could say, that what manny is asking for in weight penalty is also unprecedented, why 10 vs. 5 million? Perhaps because it's based on Manny's own perception of what it will take to ensure in HIS mind that floyd is ready to fight. Similarly, floyd has certain procedures that he wants to have done in order for things to be fair in HIS mind. As for other fighters, they have to work that out based upon contractual agreements in their individual fights. I'm not saying that these are "right" or "wrong" as I don't believe those terms can be assesed to such things based on the info we have. What I do want though, is for this fight to happen, and if that means we have to exchange "one penalty for another penalty" so be it, or if it's no contract penalties on either side, so be it. But , my thinking is that, it may take a compromise (beyond what manny would have to do anyway) for this fight to happen, that's why this fight is 50-50 for the dollars, I suspect there will need to be some give and take(even if it isn't the fighters' initial preference) for this fight to happen.
     
  11. Pimp C

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    I guess I must be the only one here who is pissed about pac not taking the test? I guess all of those posters who agree with me are parinoid as well?:patsch Come with something else Lance.
     
  12. AMERICANBORN

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    sorry lance, whether you like to admit it or not we live in a world where a large number of professional athletes are doping, in a fight of this magnitude i cant see how anyone would have a problem with an enhanced testing procedure, in a prefect world we would have this style of testing for every sporting league/event but time and resources make that very difficult, but for events of this magnitude i see no excuse to go to the fullest extent to ensure a clean fight
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    head games that may derail a fight will just make the Mayweathers look like idiots.
     
  14. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, Pac doesn't want the fight because if he did, and was innocent, he'd do the drug test and shove it up PBF's ass. Quit with the ******ed theories.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Exactly! Why not do it? Take the ****ing test if you have nothing to hide it's that simple.:deal
     
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