The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. ravtrav

    ravtrav Active Member Full Member

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    Pac should only do the blood test if Ellerbe does a saliva test for Floyds dick! The balls are in Ellerbe's mouth.
     
  2. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the volume does not count. it is the act the you fear the most.

    i myself have a fear of snakes. what do you think it will do to your brain if your trapped in an elevator for 5 minutes with a snake an hour before the fight? :lol::rofl

    its all about superstition and belief. just like a lot of athletes who do their own routine.

    tell me, how unfair is it if pac has agreed to both urine and blood test.

    the fact is, you dumb haters will believe in anything. even if pac passes all drug test, you dumb idiots will again claim that he must have had used a masking agent.
     
  3. AMERICANBORN

    AMERICANBORN Active Member Full Member

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    im talking about public opinion and the backlash after refusing to take a drug test that thousands athletes have submitted to, according to public opinion refusing the test might as well be an admission of guilt, had you read my post i linked for you you would have understood that, but you dont seem to understand much
     
  4. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    giving blood 24 hours before the fight? **** that!!! a fighter should not be tampered in his routine a day before the fight... it will affect him mentally.

    floyd is ****!!!
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    "According to Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer, who is negotiating the deal with Top Rank president Todd duBoef, Pacquiao refuses to have his blood drawn within 30 days of the bout based on his superstition of testing so close to a fight."

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4766171
     
  6. AMERICANBORN

    AMERICANBORN Active Member Full Member

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    it sucks manny has a fear of needles, but that nor superstition is a legit excuse imo, like manny is the only athlete that has submitted to olympic testing that doesnt like needles?
     
  7. p4p_kid

    p4p_kid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Manny has had history of having his blood taken days before the fight against morales the first time. He and his camp blamed it plus the winning gloves on the lost.

    Olympics is very different in the pros, Olympians, having their blood taken a day before the fight wont have an effect to them cause they're fighting 4 rounders and 2 minutes each round. You can't do that in a 12 round fight cause it will definitely take a toll on the fighters in the later rounds.

    this is not something any other elite fighter demanded in a fight of this magnitude. Only mayweather, because he's scared, scared to lose his 0.

    mayweathers had been thinking of a way out, i guess they found one.

    manny is clean floyd, just man up and step up to the plate.
     
  8. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ah yes.

    this clearly shows your partiality and lack of objectivity. :lol::rofl

    in the courts, you would have been kicked our already as a probable jury or witness because you have already judged a person based on what again?

    hearsay of crackheads and delusional idiots who are envious of pacs success.

    if berto, malinggagi and other ****wits had pacs speed and power, they wouldn't be that envious don't you think/

    maybe he did.

    just shows you are a ****ing idiot.

    presumption of evidence until proven guilty is enshrined in the constitution.

    see, you are a clear nuthugging dumb idiot.:lol::rofl

    so its safe for us to assume that pbf is also a *** in a relationship with ellerbe right. :rofl
     
  9. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bingo. Before all of this I thought it was POSSIBLE that Pacquiao had used steroids given his physique which typically is ripped to shreds in a way that steroid users often look. However, I never once voiced this because I didn't want to do it on pure speculation. The fact that he is refusing to go through testing has raised serious red flags that I wish he would just deal with. As you and others have been saying, just take the test and put the matter to rest. Thing is, I don't even want to believe that Pacquiao takes steroids. Hell, I like the guy.
     
  10. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    Child, please...
     
  11. WeezyF27

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    were not talking about hours before a fight. besides they are only allowed to test up until 24 hours before a fight.

    even if they said no more than a week before the fight it would be a different story.

    instead they say not during training camp at all..
     
  12. WeezyF27

    WeezyF27 Active Member Full Member

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    why can't pac just prove it???
     
  13. josak

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    http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/22/freddie-roach-manny-pacquiao-wont-do-olympic-style-blood-test/

    "A urine drug test, I'll do every day of the week. But giving blood before a fight, I will not let my fighter do," Roach said during a telephone call from his Wild Card Boxing Club on Tuesday.

    "And they can't guarantee me that that won't happen the day before a fight because they want random testing. So it's my choice. So if you want to blame somebody, blame me."

    "Manny does not like having to give blood before a fight. It's like having sex: Does sex bother a fighter before a fight? If it's in your head mentally, then yes, it does. And with Manny Pacquiao, it's in his head that he feels weak if he gives blood, and there's no way that I'm going to let him go into the ring with that on his mind," said Roach.

    "I've done my homework, I've talked to experts," Roach added, "Urine and blood-testing are almost identical in this type of situation. Neither test can detect growth hormones and HGH and stuff like that anyway. So, I'll do all of the urine tests in the world, no problem. I'll give blood 30 days before the fight or after the fight in the dressing room, I'll give blood, but not right before the fight.

    "I never thought that Floyd wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao, and now, he wants to cancel a fight because we won't take a pre-fight blood test, but we'll do any other commission test or any urine test in the world. Floyd Mayweather is not the commission, and we'll go by the local commission rules like everyone else in the world."

    But an angered Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather's adviser, told FanHouse on Tuesday, "Freddie Roach is full of s***."

    "They're scrambling and they're boxed in and they know it," Ellerbe added.

    "It's our understanding that the [United States Anti-Doping Agency] will not be drawing blood 24 hours before the fight, so there shouldn't be a problem. They're probably saying something along the lines that Floyd Mayweather is trying to get out of the fight," said Ellerbe. "Well, if he feels that this is Floyd's way trying to get out of the fight, then all Manny Pacquiao has to do is agree to the testing."

    "We're all for drug-testing, and we're all for boxing being a drug-free sport, but what we're not for is being harassed into taking blood tests the day of the fight, or, even, the week of the fight. We will not succumb to that," said Koncz, from the Philippines, where he said that Pacquiao would soon be making an official statement on the matter.

    "The bottom line is that Manny believes that all athletes, while they're performing, they're role-models to the public, and, especially children. They should be free of drugs," said Koncz. "If they want us to **** in a bottle 20 times a day up until two hours before the fight, we'll be happy to do it. But we're not going to take blood that close to the fight. If they want to draw blood, they can do it right after the fight."
     
  14. AMERICANBORN

    AMERICANBORN Active Member Full Member

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    so taking blood for olympic boxers is ok but not for professionals because their fights are longer and it will effect them?

    how about marathon and long distance runners in the olympics, or basketball and hockey players?
     
  15. Zone36

    Zone36 Member Full Member

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    Well as stated earlier, what Gayweather is looking for can't be found in either test. An army of doctors can attest to that.
     
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