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AMERICANBORN said: ↑

it sucks manny has a fear of needles, but that nor superstition is a legit excuse imo, like manny is the only athlete that has submitted to olympic testing that doesnt like needles?
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dude, if you are in pac's shoes, do you think it would be reasonable to have your blood test taken an hour, a day, 30 minutes before the fight?

when all odds are against him. when he needs all the concentration and strength, you go and distract him.

so if he is in church, doing his thing and all that stuff. do you require him to stop everything he is doing.

or, say he is driving from LA to Vegas. do you stop him midway to get a sample.

my point is, there is a point that this is getting ridiculous already.

and clearly, pbf fans here have judged him guilty already. :rofl

scatterbrain, Dec 22, 2009

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scatterbrain said: ↑

the volume does not count. it is the act the you fear the most.

i myself have a fear of snakes. what do you think it will do to your brain if your trapped in an elevator for 5 minutes with a snake an hour before the fight? :rofl

its all about superstition and belief. just like a lot of athletes who do their own routine.

tell me, how unfair is it if pac has agreed to both urine and blood test.

the fact is, you dumb haters will believe in anything. even if pac passes all drug test, you dumb idiots will again claim that he must have had used a masking agent.
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Drug test or STFU

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Coming from the guy who didn't even try to make his contractual weight only weeks ago - This is beyond hypocracy.

"We just want to make sure there is a level playing field in a sport that is a man-to-man contest that relies on strength and ability." - Didn't hear Leonard saying that after the weigh in a few weeks ago.

What a bunch of ****.

doomeddisciple, Dec 22, 2009

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http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/22/freddie-roach-manny-pacquiao-wont-do-olympic-style-blood-test/

"A urine drug test, I'll do every day of the week. But giving blood before a fight, I will not let my fighter do," Roach said during a telephone call from his Wild Card Boxing Club on Tuesday.

"And they can't guarantee me that that won't happen the day before a fight because they want random testing. So it's my choice. So if you want to blame somebody, blame me."

"Manny does not like having to give blood before a fight. It's like having sex: Does sex bother a fighter before a fight? If it's in your head mentally, then yes, it does. And with Manny Pacquiao, it's in his head that he feels weak if he gives blood, and there's no way that I'm going to let him go into the ring with that on his mind," said Roach.

"I've done my homework, I've talked to experts," Roach added, "Urine and blood-testing are almost identical in this type of situation. Neither test can detect growth hormones and HGH and stuff like that anyway. So, I'll do all of the urine tests in the world, no problem. I'll give blood 30 days before the fight or after the fight in the dressing room, I'll give blood, but not right before the fight.

"I never thought that Floyd wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao, and now, he wants to cancel a fight because we won't take a pre-fight blood test, but we'll do any other commission test or any urine test in the world. Floyd Mayweather is not the commission, and we'll go by the local commission rules like everyone else in the world."

But an angered Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather's adviser, told FanHouse on Tuesday, "Freddie Roach is full of s***."

"They're scrambling and they're boxed in and they know it," Ellerbe added.

"It's our understanding that the [United States Anti-Doping Agency] will not be drawing blood 24 hours before the fight, so there shouldn't be a problem. They're probably saying something along the lines that Floyd Mayweather is trying to get out of the fight," said Ellerbe. "Well, if he feels that this is Floyd's way trying to get out of the fight, then all Manny Pacquiao has to do is agree to the testing."

"We're all for drug-testing, and we're all for boxing being a drug-free sport, but what we're not for is being harassed into taking blood tests the day of the fight, or, even, the week of the fight. We will not succumb to that," said Koncz, from the Philippines, where he said that Pacquiao would soon be making an official statement on the matter.

"The bottom line is that Manny believes that all athletes, while they're performing, they're role-models to the public, and, especially children. They should be free of drugs," said Koncz. "If they want us to **** in a bottle 20 times a day up until two hours before the fight, we'll be happy to do it. But we're not going to take blood that close to the fight. If they want to draw blood, they can do it right after the fight."
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floyd is looking for a way out

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scatterbrain said: ↑

idiots, do not act like pac has flunked a drug test even once.

he has always been clean.
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How can he flunk a drug test if he won't even agree to take one? Floyd wants Olympic Style Drug Testing which will ENSURE beyond a reasonable doubt that Pacquiao is juicing.

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password23 said: ↑

This is nothing new to team pacquiao, it happened on the first morales fight where pacquiao was forced to take the blood test before the fight
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didn't pacqauio lose that fight?

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p4p_kid said: ↑

Manny has had history of having his blood taken days before the fight against morales the first time. He and his camp blamed it plus the winning gloves on the lost.

Olympics is very different in the pros, Olympians, having their blood taken a day before the fight wont have an effect to them cause they're fighting 4 rounders and 2 minutes each round. You can't do that in a 12 round fight cause it will definitely take a toll on the fighters in the later rounds.

this is not something any other elite fighter demanded in a fight of this magnitude. Only mayweather, because he's scared, scared to lose his 0.

mayweathers had been thinking of a way out, i guess they found one.

manny is clean floyd, just man up and step up to the plate.
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WeezyF27 said: ↑

why can't pac just prove it???
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because for ****ing idiotic haters like you who have made up their minds, there is no test that will be enough.

seriously, if he passed the test now. you can say he is probably taking something new that has not been detected before.

the thing is, your hate can go on and on.

pac has never been caught. not even once. think about it dumb ****.

will he start juicing up now, probably on his last fight. when he has proven to have passed all his test in the last 55 fights of his. :rofl

scatterbrain, Dec 22, 2009

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scatterbrain said: ↑

dude, if you are in pac's shoes, do you think it would be reasonable to have your blood test taken an hour, a day, 30 minutes before the fight?

when all odds are against him. when he needs all the concentration and strength, you go and distract him.

so if he is in church, doing his thing and all that stuff. do you require him to stop everything he is doing.

or, say he is driving from LA to Vegas. do you stop him midway to get a sample.

my point is, there is a point that this is getting ridiculous already.

and clearly, pbf fans here have judged him guilty already. :rofl
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whatever test he is subject to floyd is as well, and i again explain to you every olympic athlete is subjet to these tests 24/7, now im sure the testing agency would not show up in mannys locker room as hes getting wrapped and ask for a blood test, a few days before the fight is very probable and plausible. and no one is judging pac as guilty, but at the same time no one gets a free pass in todays world, and refusing testing is just gonna further shine the spotlight on you

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If PAC is willing to give blood right after the fight, then what the **** is the problem??

Or is it just me?

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How can he flunk a drug test if he won't even agree to take one? Floyd wants Olympic Style Drug Testing which will ENSURE beyond a reasonable doubt that Pacquiao is juicing.
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dude, he passed the drug tests for the cotto fight.

beyond reasonable doubt? dude, I am a lawyer and that phrase is only applicable in criminal offenses.

beyond reasonable doubt? if he passed the test now.

are you 100% sure that haters will not accuse him of taking drugs developed in the last 2 months of which no test has still been developed to detect its presence?

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chimba said: ↑

If PAC is willing to give blood right after the fight, then what the **** is the problem??

Or is it just me?
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but by then the fight has already happened... floyd maybe looking for a way out to save his "0". :yep

enzo, Dec 22, 2009

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chimba said: ↑

If PAC is willing to give blood right after the fight, then what the **** is the problem??

Or is it just me?
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Thats what i was thinking as well. Any illegal substance would have to show up in a blood test after the fight right?

evalistinho, Dec 22, 2009

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scatterbrain said: ↑

dude,

pac is a superstitious dude who dabbles in **** fighting all the time. i explained it in a previous post.

gamblers like him will never allow something to disrupt "blood or rhythm" so close to the fight.

if the blood test is done right after the fight, which he has agreed upon, what is wrong with that?

we all know pac is a superstitious dude.
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Pacquiao is a professional fighter at the highest level. If he was superstitious about letting people in the dressing room who aren't part of his camp pre-fight, would it be acceptable to possibly let him load his gloves so as to not disrupt him? No, certainly not. In the name of fair play "superstition" is not a refuge.

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because for ****ing idiotic haters like you who have made up their minds, there is no test that will be enough.

seriously, if he passed the test now. you can say he is probably taking something new that has not been detected before.

the thing is, your hate can go on and on.

pac has never been caught. not even once. think about it dumb ****.

will he start juicing up now, probably on his last fight. when he has proven to have passed all his test in the last 55 fights of his. :rofl
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first off for the record I don't think pac took steriods I really dont.

second off he never had extensive testing in the past either..

third quit using faces like a 12 year old girl..

WeezyF27, Dec 22, 2009

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