The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

sounds reasonable to me

 

Damn... time to resurrect my PBF vs Hatton thread again. snapzzz.

 

If suppersistion and or a phoiba of nediles is the reason that Pacquiao won't go along with the tests than Manny Pacquiao needs to look in the miror to see who is at fault if the fight dose indeed fall through.

 

If they don't feel comfortable doing it during fight week, then they have the right to refuse.

What can they put in his system in 6 days span that will be effective on fight night?

 

No, because it's clearly a mental thing (If Roach's words are true).

 

Damn are you guys really that dense when it comes to this kind of stuff??? Check it out before you make comments like this. If a person is on roids they take then in cycles, that means you cycle on or use, then you cycle off or stop using. During the period in which your not on it wouldnt show up in your tests. But you still have been using. If someone was forced to test 30 days before then it makes it hard for them to use at all. You couldnt cycle of or let the stuff clear your system. Its not that hard to understand.

I dont think that Manny is on roids but I also dont see the problem with taking the test. The REAL problem I have is people not understanding what the **** is going on with this kind of stuff and then making crazy comments about after the fight testing.

Does anyone honestly think that NO fighter has being using **** in this era of steroids??? Yet no one has been caught with anything major other then Vargas, only ripped fuel and diet pills. That is because if you know when your going to test you can always pass it.

 

No, Pacquiao has already agreed to those terms, it's the time of the "random" testing that they have a problem with.

 

All you people are arguing about something that has come out of Floyd Srs mouth .Rofl Haven't you ever listened to that MORON? ROFL Has anything even remotely intelligent come out of his big mouth.

 

Here's some food for thought.

Some cheating athletes take blood out of their system, freeze the blood, let their bodies replenish, then inject the blood back in their system. The extra blood increases the number of red blood cells in the body which in turn carries more oxygen to the muscles. The opposite also holds true; less blood in the system means fewer red blood cells and less oxygen reaching the muscles.

More blood = better performance.

Less blood = worse performance.

 

Naturally, athletes were eager to pay for advice from Charles E. Yesalis. The Penn State professor knows steroids. He has written three books on the subject. He has testified to Congress. He has worked with the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee, the FBI, the American Medical Association, the NFL Players Association, the U.S. Olympic Committee and the NCAA.

So athletes sought him out. Not for help in getting the drugs that are legally obtained only by prescription; anybody smart enough to buy Milk Duds can score steroids. Nor were athletes concerned about health risks; who sweats the small stuff when you believe you're bullet-proof?

They came to Yesalis in hopes of covering up the crime.
"They wanted to hire me as a consultant to make sure they don't get caught," he says.

He says he turned down the requests, once prompting an athlete to say, "Well, Chuck, I figured you were going to say that. But, you know, I would even take it off my income tax as a business expense." They shared a laugh there.

Such a world we've made.

Steroids as business tools.

Every home run hitter a suspect.

Now we hear Major League Baseball making noises about a steroids-testing program. Though any testing is better than no testing, Yesalis says the hard truth is that not even the most stringent program, let alone the namby-pamby deal likely to come from current talks, will eliminate steroids in baseball.

"With drug testing in place in the NFL, NBA, and every major Olympic sport, there's still a steroids problem in those leagues and federations," he says. "It would be naive to think that if baseball had a steroids-testing program, they're still not going to have a huge problem."


For Yesalis, a test by eyesight is enough: "When you see mature men who have already strength-trained for years, and all of a sudden they gain 30 pounds of lean mass, I am tremendously suspicious because that doesn't happen naturally. You don't need to be a steroid scientist to know that is incomprehensible."

Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa, two suddenly bulky strongmen, have denied using steroids and pledged to abide by any testing program players help devise. Many people, including borderline omniscient sportswriters, have insisted that Bonds and Sosa pass a test because a simple test would end the suspicion.

No, it would not. Passing such a test can mean ...

1) The athlete doesn't use steroids.

2) He uses steroids daily but with a masking agent.

3) He uses steroids, but all traces are flushed out of his system within two or three days.

4) He uses a steroid recipe fashioned by a designer famous for undetectable potions.

5) He used steroids as training aids two years ago, bulked up, kept buff with madman workouts and now needs a juice refill only every January.

6) He uses human growth hormone, or insulin-like growth factor I. These replicate steroid enhancement, but no test exists for them.

The question: "So a negative steroid test really proves nothing?"

Yesalis: "You are absolutely and totally correct."

As for the positive result that identifies a user, it can happen. Inexplicable things happen. Julia Roberts married Lyle Lovett. But Yesalis' experience suggests Gwyneth Paltrow will marry Britney Spears and Lil' Bow Wow in a three-way ceremony before Bonds or Sosa tests positive.

Beyond the athlete's ability to finesse the test, Yesalis cites circumstantial evidence that a multibillion-dollar industry might not identify all its cheaters:

"What franchise-making NFL superstar has ever been caught in their drug screening for performance-enhancing drugs? None. Who is the last world-famous Olympic athlete caught? Ben Johnson, 1988.... Even with drug-testing, I believe the NFL, the NHL, the NBA and the majority of Olympic sports have the same level of drug use as is attributed to baseball."

As if to buttress Yesalis' belief, Dr. Wade Exum, for nine years the director of the U.S. Olympic Committee's drug control program, has charged in a lawsuit that the USOC has not identified or sanctioned several U.S. medal winners who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs. The USOC denies it.

Yesalis even wonders if fans care. "Oh, yes, a lot of fans say they're bothered. I'm bothered by the fact these chemically enhanced athletes are breaking records of my idol, Mickey Mantle, where my strong belief is these clowns couldn't carry Mantle's jockstrap.

"But the important question is, `Mr. and Mrs. Fan, are you bothered enough to turn off your television? Or not pay $200 for an evening at Camden Yards?' I think we know fans are not bothered much. If anything, given the fans' love of watching the ball go over the wall, steroids have been very, very good for baseball."

 

Test right after the fight would prove Pac is clean, but Void does not want to fight Pac as has been proven.

 

Welcome to the subject capt obvious.

 

Would that effect blood pressure in any way?

 

No its not becaused of that. Pacquiao is willing to be tested straight after the fight. Which most sports are tested for blood. Now we all know if the fight doesnt go ahead PBF is being a spoilt *****.

I mean was his fight with JMM olympic tested
was his fight with all the other fighters olympic tested


NO so why now because he is scared and if he gets his way it just means the officials of boxing are willing to give PBF whatever he asks for.

Like the Paris Hilton of Boxing Spoilt *****.

 

Anyone notice that Void fans are not bothered by Chambers Balco?

Fight Aficionado
Here is the LA Times on Chambers, which NO boxing news site has reported: "BALCO was raided by federal investigators in 2003 and Conte later pleaded guilty to steroid distribution and money laundering... Conte has now re-emerged with a new firm called SNAC (Scientific Nutrition for Advanced Conditioning) in San Carlos, and in the last year has started working with a small stable of pro athletes... Conte said he's provided his nutritional supplements to Ward and other athletes, including heavyweight boxer Eddie Chambers, who will fight Wladimir Klitschko for a world title in March... Chambers says he uses many Conte products, from energy shakes to pills that help him recover from weight-lifting sessions and allow him to sleep better. He said he plans to use IHT training before the Klitschko bout.

This is on from page of ESB, Fight Aficionado has an excellent point. So, why don't Void fans complain about Balco?