The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. ceebz

    ceebz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dan Rafael just said one major sticking point is that with the USADA random testing, they can come to your house in the middle of the night and request a blood sample.

    Can people not see how this would disrupt a training camp?
     
  2. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Manny is that fragile than he is in deep **** against Floyd. Floyd sees the mind games as important as the fight itself.

    Wahhhh I don't like needles. Can't wait for it to be official and watch Floyd torment Manny for the next 2.5 months.
     
  3. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If these tests were neccessary they would be mandatory.
    Floyd's just trying to be as big a pain in the ass as possible to unsettle Manny
     
  4. PirateGorilla

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  5. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    There is no controversy - this is something Floyd mayweather sr. MADE UP!
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    balls on floyd now. i think he really wants to duck pacquiao and would push for the olympic style testing.
     
  7. bronx

    bronx Boxing Junkie banned

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    i think so....i just dont want the fight to fall thru:-(
     
  8. bronx

    bronx Boxing Junkie banned

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    good point
     
  9. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    Sure he does, so does Mayweather.

    Most likely HGH, and probably a bunch of other stuff.

    So what?
     
  10. xviiixvi

    xviiixvi Active Member Full Member

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    ^this....best post of these 131 pages!
     
  11. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  12. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They cant REALLY defend this so they deflect. Manny refusing to do the testing is a black eye for a sport that has no eyes left to black. This guys try and turn it into Floyd is doing something wrong, when in fact its a simple fu*king blood test. I saw this morning on ESPN were Rafael said that Pac's camp objects to the random testing, he said they claim that manny doesnt want to have to give Blood the day of the or before the fight. Thing is if Manny has to do it then so would Floyd. Now these *******s are trying to make it sound like an ounce of blood will weaken Pac to the point that he would be the same fighter, which is bull****, most fighters lose more then an ounce of blood during every fight. Hell and a blood sample doesnt even take an ounce of blood.
     
  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Pac has agreed. This is straight from WADA on what and how they test.

    Reporting and Evaluation Guidance for Testosterone, Epitestosterone, T/E Ratio and other Endogenous Steroids

    It is recommended that a urine Sample in which any one of the following criteria is met during the
    Screening Procedure, be routinely submitted to the IRMS analysis:
    i) T/E value equal or greater than 4;
    ii) concentration of testosterone or epitestosterone (equivalent to the glucuronide) greater than
    200 ng/mL1;
    iii) concentration of androsterone or etiocholanolone (equivalent to the glucuronide) greater than
    10,000 ng/mL1;
    iv) concentration of DHEA (equivalent to the glucuronide) greater than 100 ng/mL1.

    EPO
    In June 2003, WADA’s Executive Committee accepted the results of an independent report stating that urine tests alone can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO. This report, requested by WADA’s stakeholders and commissioned by the Agency to evaluate the validity of urine and blood tests for detecting the presence of recombinant EPO,
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    . This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons, including the cost savings of performing blood screening prior to testing urine. Some International Federations still use both urine and blood matrices for the detection of EPO. Recently, the urine test used for the detection of some new erythropoiesis stimulating agents was adapted for blood testing.

    HGH
    There has been no positive test result for HGH.
    A test for HGH was first introduced at the 2004 Summer Olympic Games in Athens, Greece. The test to detect HGH abuse is a blood test.


    The test that Pac agreed to is more then satisfactory to WADA’s guideline for anti doping. The blood work prior to the training, the random urine test, and then the blood and urine sample after the fight will detect anything in his system. No where on their site does it stipulate that the blood needs to be drawn X date from the time someone uses the doping drug.
     
  14. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course they would be different. Not only that, Floyd wouldnt be able to object to any demands that were made by the Pac camp without being called a coward on this site. Manny could demand that Floyd wears a thong and flip flops and you would have clowns here that wouldnt have a problem with that. Though if you checked out some other sites the feelings are almost a 180 from the overall feelings on this site.
     
  15. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    THANKS FOR THE FACTS!:good
     
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