The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    Pac will give blood before training and after the fight. So yes that is a fact.
     
  2. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is pointless because you guys dont get, or dont want to. Its not the sample itself, its the timing of when the sample is taken. If you take it to far out or too close the tests are useless, and the sample will return clean. How do you think that guys in sports have been getting away with using for decades. If you know WHEN your going to be tested then you can pass the test. By doing random testing within a 6 to 8 week period prior to the fight its the best way to ensure that if any thing is used it will be detected, anything used out pass that time frame would make the substance ineffective. By doing the test a week before and a day after would still allow a user to use and still show a clean test...I have read alot of books about this stuff when all the steroid stuff broke in baseball, and in everyone of them they talked about "HOW they were getting away with using" Its not a new thing its been going on for years, and there is a ton of information on it out there. hell you could just google how to past a test for steroids and 100 pages will pop up. All which will include information about timing and cycles:good
     
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    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In that comment I was talking about Oscar, but I guess the part about a guy that hasnt fought at 147 in 7 years didnt give that away??? yet another clueless guy posting
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    thanks! i hope floyd fans would read this. i always think that the random urine and the blood test after the fight is sufficient enough. now floyd should man up and accept the fight and stop acting like a *****.
     
  5. ceebz

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    Roach and Pac have agreed to take the test randomly, just as long as it's no closer to the fight than 5 days. The problem is, the USADA cannot guarantee that will happen and Floyd refuses to use another drug testing organization.
     
  6. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What am I wrong about, it should be easy for you to point it out since I know so little:good
     
  7. ceebz

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    Latest from Rafael:

    Dan Rafael
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    Bob is saying they will agree to three tests and wants to use the agencies that deal with MLB or NBA, etc...
     
  8. ceebz

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    Dan Rafael
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    Bob says they want to keep the fight on track but that Manny will not do it via the USADA. They want to do it like the NFL and NBA and use their protocal. I think this fight will be saved.
     
  9. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No they didnt agree to that, what they agreed to is doing the test as the press tour starts and then after the fight, and they would be willing to take a test up to 6 days out. Which is enough for any reasonable person to ask WHY?? Why would they need what would amount to a 7 or 8 week break in testing:hey
     
  10. lobk

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    It is pointless since I've given facts to the argument and all you can come up with is some cycle ****. WADA which governs the world sports stated that urine test was more then enough to catch roid. I'll take their word over yours.

    The baseball test is a joke. It doesn't even compare to the test Pac will subject himself to. Pac has agred to 3 blood test. One during press kickoff, 30 days prior to fight, and then after the fight. On top of that they can do all the urine test they want. There is nothing that will escape the test. :deal
     
  11. ceebz

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    How about because he will be in training and the USADA can come in at anytime during the day, evening, night and request a sample?

    You don't think that would be disruptive?
     
  12. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just love the way you guys keep changing the story.

    I know you dont care about cycle, and you dont care about the truth either. I showed you from that site that you linked were it said that hGH is found in BLOOD TEST, yet you keep up with your story.

    Show me were they agreed to testing 30 days out. I have yet to see that, I see they will do it during the press tour, up to 6 days before and then right after.
     
  13. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So what your saying is that it would only be disruptive to pac?? I guess you somehow think that it would be easier on floyd or maybe they would test him as well??

    If floyd can agree to it then why can Pac??

    Bottom line is this is no reason for pac to take a we wont do this fight is off stance. If Floyd was saying that the fight had to be at 150 or something like that I would be with the ******* in calling him a coward and maybe he doesnt want the fight. But a ****ing blood test??? its no reason to throw away what could make the fighter 100 mill to split. Its retarted.

    I dont want 50 mill because I dont want to take have blood drawn...That dont sound odd to you???:huh
     
  14. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    Pac will give the blood test so where is your pointless argument going? He will give blood. HGH is an injection, it is not going to leave the body in a short time. The three blood test will catch it. YES HGH IS FOUND IN BLOOD TEST, THE TEST THAT PAC WILL DO. What part about Pac will give blood to test for HGH do you not get?


    Let me find the link to the 3 blood test that Arum mention.
     
  15. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Right, this fight has to be made.. everyone knows it especially Arum. Floyd wants the fight and Pac 'says' he wants the fight. Now, Floyd wants olympic style drug testing to come there way so that there is definatley no suspicions on behalf of either fighter, especially Pac because the way he has gone up in weight and performed has made people suspicious. Now to be fair to Pac, he is probably innocent of any wrong doing because he is a special fighter but if he has nothing to hide why doesn't he go along with the tests? It's not a problem for the Olympic Sprinters, they don't just refuse to run the 100m because of the drug testing so whats the problem?

    If Pac has nothing to hide, then he would have no problem doing the tests and the fight can go ahead.
     
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