Wait a second...WTF is arum thinking???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 1lehudson, Dec 23, 2009.


  1. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Are you people ****ing dumb? He will submit Random Urine tests anytime , he just doesn't want to give blood so close to the fight... but he still will give blood 30 days before, and directly after the fight..

    Urine shows PED use just as effectively as Blood does... this is ****ing nuts, how are you clowns buying into this bull? Mayweather has been looking for a way out since the beginning, that's all that is taking place.
     
  2. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    you're a doctor? You don't know anything...
     
  3. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I kinda think that Boxing is scared to do that. In much the way that baseball was scared to start doing thier testing. I too am scared for boxing to do it as well. I dont think that it could handle a big PED outbreak. It would kill boxing
     
  4. thatguy

    thatguy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    HGH Go read about it you dumb goof
     
  5. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hGH is found in blood not urine, others are found in urine. That isnt the point clown, the point is how the **** do they think they can dictate when the test is taken. Taking a blood test 30 days out and right after the fight doesnt stop one from using it, since level would be back to normal after a couple of weeks.

    Floyd has been looking for a way out, so what your saying is that floyd is so smart and knows so much about Pac that he know that Pac would object to random blood testing?? Fu*k maybe I should find Floyd and ask him what todays lotto numbers will be:patsch
     
  6. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    The random urine test works. That is all that is needed.What has failed in the past is that the urine test were not random, ie Baseball. Since they have implemented the random urine test baseball players have failed it and home run records are no longer being set. This all from random urine test.

    The really high end stuff comes from sophisticated lab. These labs are monitored, how do you think Victor Conte got busted. No multimillion dollar athlete is going to inject himself with crap on the street. It is not easy to get this stuff without leaving a trail. Having said that, the blood sample Pac is wiling to give and the random urine sample is more then enough to catch anything.
     
  7. SoxNation

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    Using certain PEDs you can schedule your usage around those dates so that there's time for the drugs to flush out of your system and get you a clean test. That's why they want Olympic random testing.
     
  8. tojikiston

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    **** not gonna run out of the body easily!!!!
    so tests will show if anything is there!
    but, messing with someone's blood is not good!
    so, all the blood tests should be done earlier, few days prior to fight blood test? hell no!!!
    urine test is enough!!!
    **** the UglyBoy - P4P Beatch of the World!!!
     
  9. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    And now your an expert on HGH? Blood taken 30 days out and a sample after the fight isn't good enough? Do tell us Dr. Please provide us insight into this since you seem to know the answer. We can only go by what testing organization says is needed, which is just the blood sample of the athlete to run against HGH.
     
  10. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Blood test can detect things urine test cannot. What failed in the past with baseball was having no testing at all.
     
  11. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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    no it dont
     
  12. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    And what part about Pac agreeing to the blood test are people missing out on? If your claiming there is something that can leave his system and give him that much advantage in a month please post that substance. If such a thing exist the USADA should have it on their site on what it is they are testing for. They have to tell the athlete what they are testing for. No one has yet been able to provide a single name of a substance. The three blood work he'll be giving will erase all doubt along with the random urine test.
     
  13. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac doesn't want random testing. I don't know all of the substances, but I do know HGH and I believe EPO are only detectable with blood test. USADA is apart of the World Anti-Doping Agency which is the strongest agency out there. I'm sure they have most of the substances on their list. Three blood test are not enough if they have set dates, and that's what Arum wants.
     
  14. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    why?"
     
  15. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    Manny's second mistake is being linked up with Bob Arum. Arum is nothing but a lying, thieving, corrupt, Jewish gangster in a suit who doesn't give a **** about his fighters. This thug still thinks he's living back in the 1950's in New York's ghettos. Arum is the same ******* who said he was going to "vindicate" Margarito and get his suspension overturned. :rofl Guess most of you forgot Oscar De La Hoya parted with Arum because he knew Arum was corrupt.