The absolute truth about Manny and Floyd. Let's clear up the confusion.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by LukeO, Dec 25, 2009.


  1. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Funniest part of all of this, is I think Mayweather will win.
    You guys are completely ******ed. Blind sheep...
    Keep doing what Papa mayweather tells you to.
     
  2. thekid

    thekid SEC Full Member

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    I think floyd will win to, and belive it or not i'm a fan of pac the dude is a beast, but lets get real, just take the rendom test whats the big deal. They never said they would test right before the fight or right after they don't say when their going to test. I think the whole testing thing was and is a ploy but to not do it and then try to sue is a ***** move man up take the test and try to kick floyds ass.
     
  3. dilayro

    dilayro Active Member Full Member

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    floyd is scared he's looking for every avenue to get out of the fight. he's a proven ducker so i'm not surprised.
     
  4. thekid

    thekid SEC Full Member

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    your mother's a proven sucker
     
  5. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    Pac is afraid. He knows he can't beat a superior boxer. He knows he can't fight against a guy with a right. He is using the drug test as an excuse not to fight, since Floyd agreed to all his demands.
     
  6. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    You see Luke, I told you last night.......Blame your father for ****ing you in your ass Pal, not the good posters who disagree with your biased statements. You have to be a teenager, who doesnt get out much. Good luck in the circus :lol:
     
  7. jasedikio

    jasedikio Active Member Full Member

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    me thinks this is the other way around.
     
  8. dilayro

    dilayro Active Member Full Member

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    truth hurts, son
     
  9. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :huh

    What's the other way round?
     
  10. BOXING/MMAFAN

    BOXING/MMAFAN The Fan Full Member

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    mayweather should still win he is just the better boxer.... maybe he is just doing this on purpose to hype the fight :) y hasnt anyone at least anything iv read say that hmmmmm............ interesting
     
  11. Guidokz

    Guidokz Classic Psycho Full Member

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    stupid haters will just always come up with all sorts of ***ot insults just to derail a legitimate point, what else is new..
     
  12. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    The diffrence in this case as with the penalty for the weight is Floyd has already been guilty of coming in over weight ..The Marquez bout is proof enough what proof is there that Manny is on something ?
     
  13. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    You are not alone in that.

    More and more boxing writers are seeing that way.

    Woods Rants Against "Cheater Manny" Allegations; Plus, MORE MERCHANT

    By Michael Woods
    Hotdogs taste good, but nobody really wants to watch them being made, not if they want to scarf one at the ballpark without hurling. All the various bits and pieces, from various parts of deceased animals, ground up, seasoned with shovelfuls of MSG, extruded into a condom-type wrapper and then cooked.

    Yummo, as Rachel Ray might say.

    It is with that image I leave in your head that I segue into the Mayweather-Pacquiao drug testing skirmish.

    Lord, what a tiresome, moronic topic. But, since it is news, since our devoted fandom seems to be curious about the matter, and devotes time and energy to it, I reached out to boxing's poet laureate, Larry Merchant, for his insight on the whole dreadful deal.

    "It has the ring of being gamesmanship," said Merchant via telephone on Wednesday afternoon. "I would think that the last thing a fighter like Mayweather who stands to make 30, 40, 50 million wants is for a fight to be postponed or cancelled."

    So, the question begs, why is Team Mayweather so intent on making an issue of pre and post-fight drug testing? Why are they and we wasting time, energy and effort heading into the most meaningful, transcendent, buzzworthy fight in a decade or two, on this whole non-issue?

    Because correct me if I'm wrong, and you can't, because I'm not, there isn't a shred of evidence that Manny Pacquiao has ever used any banned performance enhancer, be it steroid, human growth hormone or what have you, in order to gain a competitive edge in a boxing match. He's been tested, and re-tested, and re-tested again by the Las Vegas commission, and nothing untoward has ever been detected.

    So...what evidence do these folks who lob these cowardly accusations have? Please, furnish them, OR SHUT THE HELL UP. Man, if I'm Team Pacquiao, and my conscience is clean, I'm talking to an attorney about libel/slander law, just to clarify it in my head if nothing else. You cannot, or should I say, you should not be able to widely disseminate the allegation that a person cheats, and uses banned PEDs, based merely on your gut instinct. You should not be able to hijack the spotlight during negotiations for a fight that will stand to benefit you and the sport many times over. Because unprecedented focus--in recent times anyway--will be on the sweet science should the two top pound for pounders get it on March, or whenever, and you are tarnishing the sport when you when you fire in the crowded room, without smelling, apparently, a wisp of smoke.

    Floyd Mayweather Sr. brought up the "Manny uses PED" issue, accusing Pacquiao of being dirty to the Grand Rapids Press' David Mayo on Sept. 15, when he said, "I don't think he can beat Lil' Floyd with steroids in him or not."

    "He don't have that kind of talent. He don't have that kind of skill, whatever he has in him," he said two days later, during a press conference for the Mayweather-Marquez undercard. He said he thought Manny was dirty when Manny fought his guy, Ricky Hatton, on May 2. (Not coincidentally, setting up a plausible reason for his man's submission at the hands of the Filipino Fury.) Then, right after Manny smashed Miguel Cotto, Senior started smearing again. "I know Floyd is the best," says Mayweather Sr said on Nov. 14. "But when [your opponent] uses something illegal, even the best can get hurt."

    Enough, Senior! Let's take this out of the gutter, away from the realm of TMZ, and keep it clean! If you know something, beyond what your intuition tells you, then produce it. Otherwise, zip it. I am surprised that some of the people that are standing by this are getting themselves dirty in this slanderous muck, this cynical whisper campaign that seems like something that amoral character assassination artist Karl Rove might dream up, aren't distancing themselves from it.

    All involved can, and must do better, because new eyeballs are on us. People that stepped off the bus when Tyson quit against Kevin McBride are tuning in again, or will, if they aren't turned off by the drug-testing dreck.

    I'm not sure why Team Manny hasn't swung back more aggressively, because there are plenty of cards for them to play. I won't mention them, because I don't want to contribute to the poisoned atmosphere, but it's like when you get clanged in the cup by your foe--you got to come back with a harder blow to the groin, ASAP. I realize that countering might only elongate this silly flap, but you recall what happened to Swiftboated John Kerry? He figured all the hints and allegations would blow over, but in the internet age, they hang around the net like dirty bits of toilet paper.

    I'm bewildered--Team Manny seems to be bending over backward, offering to get themselves tested more than any other boxer EVER HAS, in order to prove they are clean. They are allowing themselves to get pushed around here, and maybe the time has come for them to take a stand and tell Floyd Sr. to produce something beyond innuendo, or hold his tongue.
     
  14. thekid

    thekid SEC Full Member

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    her teeth hurt but she makes up for it with sheer want too
     
  15. jtgilter

    jtgilter New Member Full Member

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    Manny is very much open to drug testing but not under gayweather's unreasonable condition. Manny said he is willing to be tested 30 days prior the fight, before the fight night and after the fight night. Arum even said he will utilize the testing body who test NBA and NFL but still Gayweather and GBP don't want to agree. Now tell me who's being a chicken?