Joe Frazier vs. Superheavyweights

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  1. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A little off topic. Should I change avatars? I love this one but it's been up here a minute.
     
  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Or possibly this?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rLdggqtaWw[/ame]


    Vitali Klitiscko, "It hurts too much."

    Larry Merchant, "I can't believe what I've just seen!"

    Jim Lampley, "Chris Byrd taking a fight on 10 days notice. Retrieves a portion of what he lost last year. Vitali Klitiscko stunningly and mysteriously dropping out of a fight in which he appeared to be headed for an easy victory."

    Larry Merchant, "He doesn't have the mentality of a champion. I can hardly believe what I just saw. You have a bad hand, so what!"

    Jim Lampley, "I couldn't believe my ears when I heard the interpretator, repeating what he heard out of Klitiscko's corner... incredible."

    Larry Merchant, "I'm speechless."
     
  3. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not to mention beating up a 40 year old "once was nearly a contender" type heavyweight after almost getting flattened in the first, and beating the guy that beat 38 year old Mike Tyson :patsch:rofl

    Incidentally, Samil Sam and Audley Harrison put Danny Williams away far more impressively than VITLAY did - and Williams showed up in better shape for those fights too.

    Yes, Frazier wouldn't have stood a chance, because VITLAY is taller and heavier :patsch
     
  4. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And he wants to compare that "man" to Joe Frazier.
     
  5. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep, and Mendoza attacks Frazier for not protesting too hard about that Manila fight stoppage, when he was completely blind and close to death :lol::lol::lol: As I remember it, VITLAY didn't argue too hard with the doctor when he stopped the fight against Lewis, he only got brave once he knew it was all over, the hissy fit was for the benefit of the crowd and the Klit-ites but the reality is he'd had enough and most likely would have quit anyway had the quack not taken the decision out of his hands :deal
     
  6. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: Priceless.
     
  7. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The punch stats are interesting in that one....VITLAY had out-landed Byrd by 15 punches to that point apparently (I'm not a massive fan of punch stats but I'm going to use them as gospel in this case for the fun of it)

    If feather fist Byrd can do that, and end up stalking VITLAY in the later stages like he was Mike Tyson, what the hell would Frazier do :shock:

    Only one winner in this match up, and it ain't the glass bodied lanky coward that's for sure :yep
     
  8. Caponecartels

    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    what the hell has been going on in here for the last few pages? :lol:

    Post #287:
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMuXwdUS_Lc[/ame]
     
  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    If i wasn't thinking stoppage before i sure am now :-(
     
  10. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Which is really disgusting and ridiculous. He should apologize for being so biased and inconsistent.

    As Ali would say, "You must be crazy man." (Meaning Mendoza).
     
  11. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Let the humiliation begin.
     
  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    A few points here :

    Byrd is a completely different match up than Frazier. More like Vitali fighting Jimmy Young. In fairness, Mendoza's crusade was against Frazier's chin and he would be easier to hit than Byrd.

    Klitschko made a huge mistake by quitting in that fight. He comes from a different culture. He knew he blew it right after he did it. He has successfully worked on vindicating himself starting with the Lewis fight where he fought his heart out.

    This being said:

    1. Mendoza saying Joe quit in Manila and not point out this well documented quit action is a super faulty argument.

    2. Putting all this aside, the Klitschko's are solid fighters with huge size who are fighting in a pathetic heavyweight division. To say they are an era in themselves and would dominate against guys like Frazier is a joke. Pitter pat Byrd was hitting Vitali at will and walking through his arm punches. Frazier would rip him to pieces. It would be nasty.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    How much easier to hit do you reckon Frazier is?
     
  14. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The main reason he's easier to hit, is that he's coming forward the whole time. You don't have to go looking for the guy. I'd say he was very adept at slipping straight punches, though. Vitaly had considerably slower hands than Ellis, Foster, Ali etc and would in all likelyhood miss a lot more.

    A relatively slow, stationary guy like that must work the uppercut to be succesful against Frazier. Lewis had a wicked uppercut and that's why I'm leaning his way in a fight against Frazier.
     
  15. dezbeast

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    Ha ha. Yep he grant, Frazier would rip Vitali to pieces the same way he did to Bonevena twice. Those were some nasty fights. On a serious note, no Klitschko fan is going to be the slightest bit convinced by those types of statements. You have to use pure logic and reasoning. Your analysis sounds emotional driven near the end. I'm not a fan by the way.