Floyd rejects Top Rank's final offer. PAC-Paulie done in one hour.

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  1. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac just stopped Cotto, a fighter Void refused to fight. Void has refused to fight Pac, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley and who know who else. I do not want to see Void in the ring again. I could care less. Void is a coward and wants to change the rules of boxing for Pac. This proves that Void is a real chicken. How do you test chicken blood?
     
  2. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe you have not been keeping up but WHO did the testing wasnt as important as having RANDOM Blood tests. The mayweather Camp agreed to have others do the testing but held on thier stance of RANDOM blood testing. RANDOM blood testing is what Pac camp has the problem with. I just want to know WHY. WHY is a CLEAN fighter so ****ing worried about a RANDOM blood test that he would walk away from what would amount to the rest of us as winning the lotto. It just dont make any ****ing sense, not matter how much you *******s try to explain it away.
     
  3. ceebz

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    OK. See, now when he's talking about cycling drugs to be effective, he's talking about the cream, or THG, or other steroids. All of these can be found with random urinalysis.

    EPO on the other hand, which increases blood density, needs a blood sample to be tested for. Since EPO is a naturally occurring hormone, testing agencies test for increased blood density. If pac is using EPO, he would use it during a fight, and a blood test taken immediately after a fight would sufficient.
     
  4. Farmboxer

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    Void has chicken blood which can't be tested. Who cares about Void anyway. Void is afraid. I knew he would refuse to fight Pac and I was correct. Change the rules of boxing for Void's wishes? Hell no!
     
  5. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    I repeat, I'm pretty sure that 6 hours is the minimum and that the hormone can be detected well after 6 hrs depending on the person. Anyway, even 6 hours is a long time and one could get 'lucky' as you said and detect something ubnormal.

    Team Pac making such a big deal about the random factor sounds suspicious and I don't think their stance can be explained. The only reason one wouldn't want to agree to random testing would be if one had something to hide. 1lehudson's last post makes a very good point, man.
     
  6. ceebz

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    Who says the other testing houses weren't offering random testing? You have a link to that? I know that Mayweather wants random testing, and I'm trying to explain why random testing would be un-needed in this case. Pac isn't on HGH, I don't see any reason for him to be. But even if he were, the WADA has been testing for HGH since 2004 and has yet to have a hot test. It's really like finding a needle in a haystack.

    If Pac were on PED's, my guess is he would be on EPO, and a blood test after the fight would catch it.

    Supposedly, there's a link between GBP and the USADA, which is Pac is so opposed to using them.
     
  7. ceebz

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    Well, WADA has been testing for HGH since 2004 and has yet to get 'lucky'.
     
  8. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So I'm assuming the 1 hour deadline was bull****?
     
  9. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    There is no conclusive scientific research to support that HGH is a performance enhancer. Somatropin requires a possible 6-7time per week injections.

    Epoetin (EPO) requires 2 lab tests per week to monitor Hct levels, it administered via subcutaneously or IV 3 times per wk.

    Blood doping requires a blood transfusion.

    Ariza, a nutritionist, really that qualified to do this?


    Conte blew Mayweather and GBP's accusations of HGH. What's left steroids random urinalysis can detect those.
     
  10. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    At boxing talk:

    GL: And this isn't a position your going to bend on, it's just take it or leave it at this point.

    BA: "Absolutely. Not particularly when we found out that in his office Schaefer told Ron Nathanielz that Pacquiao was a cheat, that he was taking drugs and so forth. And his dialogue with this creep from the USADA started in September. We have evidence of that, we have all of the inside stuff. This is a whole campaign on his and that creep Oscar's part to smear Pacquiao because he chose us over them. I'll bet you all the money in the world, I don't know this for a fact, but this whole idea was put in their ear by Schaefer."
     
  11. ceebz

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    Yeah, it's pretty creepy to think that GBP has been plotting this since Sept.
     
  12. duneford

    duneford Active Member Full Member

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    as i've predicted all along.....and wishing i was wrong....floyd will chicken out......what a *****!!!!
     
  13. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    In other words you're saying that the random thing in this case is insignificant. Since the statistic you're refering to is correct, team Pac's refusal to random testing is even more puzzling to me now. If it is that insignificant and there's really no reason to worry about anything, why refuse?
     
  14. duneford

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    here's Pacquiao have to say to Floyd so that he will accept his offer....


    I hope Floyd is not really a coward and will fight me and give the fans what they want to see. I am not afraid to fight Floyd anywhere any time.

    Manny Pacquiao
    Quotes of the week from Sky sports

    but you're wrong manny.......floyd is indeed a coward!!!
     
  15. ceebz

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    Because he's clean and doesn't understand why he should be subjected to this crap? That would be my feeling on the matter if I were him.