'How To Beat' Series - Ray Robinson vs Ray Leonard

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  1. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    First fight, and Sugar Ray Leonard has been given the task of trying to beat a prime, 147lb version of the other Sugar Ray.

    Conditions - Prime-for-prime, 12 rounds at 147lbs, 8oz gloves. All bouts are contested under the unified rules (No standing 8 count, no 3 knockdown rule, cannot be saved by the bell in any round, scorecards after 4 in the case of a cut from an accidental illegal blow)

    So, how do you see this playing out? Please vote in the poll. Thankyou.
     
    TommyV, Dec 27, 2009
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  2. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Robinson by 12 round decision.

    He is just a little better than Leonard in every department at welter.
     
    Longhhorn71, Dec 27, 2009
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  3. Boxed Ears

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    FOTC candidate. I can't make a pick. I favor Robinson...but just by a bit.
     
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  4. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this is a matter of pride so Robbie steps it up and batters RL in Terry Norris like fashion for a late round stoppage scoring knockdowns in rounds 3, 8, and two more in rd 11 before the ref steps in
     
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  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I knew you were going to come in and say something like that. :lol:
    You're a trip, man.
     
    Boxed Ears, Dec 28, 2009
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  6. TommyV

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    :bump

    Robinson leading so far.
     
    TommyV, Dec 28, 2009
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  7. PowerPuncher

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    I think if Leonard uses his speed, flurries and gets in and out while using lots of lateral movement, his faster hands/feet could give Robo nightmares
     
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  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Robinson gets off first in this match forcing Ray back and taking away the iniative and landing his combination punches. Robinson keeps the pressure on and takes a 8-4 9-3 kinda decision.
     
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  9. Flea Man

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    Hmm.........

    Well, personally I could see Robinson landing with a lovely left hook and hurting Ray. I could see Ray desperate, throwing awesome flurries that throw Robinson off of his rhythm.

    I could see both men trying to impose their will with jabs.

    I see some rounds of caginess, but both men opening up in certain portions. I just see Robinson as the better fighter between the two, and I think he will land more punches.

    That's how I see it really. A real close fight with both men having their moments, but Robinson snatching it by a point or two. Both men marked up, neither man floored.

    Hard fight to pick though, if anyone can pinpoint a stylistic advantage that may swing it in Leonards favour, please let me know and learn.
     
    Flea Man, Dec 28, 2009
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  10. salty trunks

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    I believe Leonard had a little better reach. That and maybe the speed factor just might give Leonard a small advantage??

    I agree very hard fight to pick.
     
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  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    well Leonard struggled when fighters got off first and took the iniative.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    Horrible selection by the forum. Basically people have gone for who they consider the #2 h2h WW, but what advantages does he hold? He's an inferior puncher and an equivilant boxer with no hints of a style advantage.

    I like Mino's Rodriguez shout much more.

    Robinson by decision.
     
    McGrain, Dec 28, 2009
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  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Well Leonard has a chance.

    Personally i thought Burley had the best chance but LMR was a great shout but both of these men differed than the way i chose a fighter to beat Ray, by being aggresive and backing him up to quell his offence, these gusy would be more about counter-punching and not letting ray get set for his offence which makes for a way more interesting discussion.
     
    GPater11093, Dec 28, 2009
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  14. TommyV

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    To be fair, he won with 3 votes :lol:.

    I'll probably do the Ali one next to try and drum up some more interest, if that fails I'll probably just abandon the idea.

    As for advantages, I think the votes were cast on the basis that the posters believed him to be the quicker fighter and capable of matching Robinson in the technical department.
     
    TommyV, Dec 28, 2009
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  15. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not me. Too many bad memories of that speedster Norris still fresh in my mind
     
    redrooster, Dec 28, 2009
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