Who has the better career FMJ or Pac Man (objective)

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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Without naming ANY black fighters...name five HUGE wins on Ali's record.
     
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  2. xviiixvi

    xviiixvi Active Member Full Member

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    Don't slap your head name the fighters and note if you name any fighters on Pac's Resume than it says that Floyd is just as good I think floyd is a major ******!!

    I am just saying people lets be objective Pac has infact won world titles from the following people:

    Chatchai Sasakul (?)
    Reynante Jamili (?)
    Lehlohonolo Ledwaba (?)
    Emmanuel Lucero (he never defended this title)
    Hector Velazquez (title was vacant)
    Jorge Solis (he should have lost this to JMM)
    David Diaz (never defended this title)
    Ricky Hatton (Never defended this title)
    Cotto (Welterweight Title) at 145

    With the exception of Cotto, none of these names are hall of fame nor were the cream of the crop in their divions.
     
    xviiixvi, Dec 28, 2009
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  3. olyalex

    olyalex Manos de piedra Full Member

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    PAC easy. he fought fighters that where in their primes and in great shape,he never ducked anyone.
     
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  4. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    As of right now, Pacquiao clearly has the better record.
    He's beaten more P4P top 10 guys closer to their prime than Mayweather.
    Mayweather does have some really good wins though.
     
    LukeO, Dec 28, 2009
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  5. xviiixvi

    xviiixvi Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe I should have corrected my request. I was saying that the Hispanic fighters of that day were all BRAWLERS. When JMM and EM boxed they both beat the BRAKES out of PAC. But JMM didnt get the decision. And conversely when Floyd tried to trade with JCC he almost got his clocked cleaned as well.
     
    xviiixvi, Dec 28, 2009
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  6. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Ok, now be objective and start listing Mayweather's title wins.

    I guess that will keep the bias out right?
    If someone else has to do it, it's not going to look pretty.
     
    LukeO, Dec 28, 2009
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  7. xviiixvi

    xviiixvi Active Member Full Member

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    He fought one dude at 135...David Diaz... he 's the same as arturo gatti. The first 25 dudes were all Philipino and if you check their records they were all scrubs. Between 120 and 126 he's lost technically 5 times and aside from Barerra ZERO of those fighters have ay chance of getting any where near the Hall of Fame much less even getting mentioned in this thread.
     
    xviiixvi, Dec 28, 2009
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  8. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacqiuao

    No need to read all that, jus read the thread title
     
    realsoulja, Dec 28, 2009
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  9. PanchoVilla

    PanchoVilla Guest

    Pacquiao nothing to debate.
     
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  10. xviiixvi

    xviiixvi Active Member Full Member

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    I'll do it.

    First Genaro Hernandez, the top 130 lbs fighters (check the classic forum)
    Jose Luis Castillo who should have a win over FMJ
    Arturo Gatti (never defended this title and is equal to David Diaz)
    Judah (its a joke but because of sanctioning fees its listed as a title fight)
    Carlos Baldormir (Lineal Titlist at the time)
    ODLH (its garbage but its listed)

    If you discredit Floyd for ODLH being old then you have to discredit Pac for ODLH being at 145 its a wash.

    I don't think thats a bad list. At least two HOFs. Compare those 5 to Pac's 7 and tell me they are not comparable. All I am suggesting is to look at both careers. JMM, MAB, and EM, comprise 50% of Pacs last 15 fights. And you OBJECTIVELY look at those 7 fights he's 4 and 3 not 6 and 1.
     
    xviiixvi, Dec 28, 2009
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  11. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Ok, so you list 1 guys fights and plant doubt into them, then you list the others and defend them.

    You're not being objective, you're inserting your opinion in, and telling people what to think.
    Sadly for you most people still think pacquiao has had a much better career.

    You want the ultimate answer?
    You get to have 1 dvd box set for the rest of your life.
    Every manny pacquiao fight, or every floyd mayweather fight.

    Which one would you choose?
    I know my answer instantly.
     
    LukeO, Dec 28, 2009
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  12. deeta

    deeta Member Full Member

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    he won the fights according to the records. objectively? did you mean your opinion?
     
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  13. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    Paragraphs. Please.

    Pacquiao. By far.
     
    mrtony80, Dec 28, 2009
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  14. xviiixvi

    xviiixvi Active Member Full Member

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    nah man i mean according the boxing analyst who scored the fights. dont use the ESB boxing search button, check all the major boxing sites.
     
    xviiixvi, Dec 28, 2009
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  15. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Good joke. :lol:
     
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