Higher P4P: Carlos Zarate or Marco Antonio Barrera

I give the edge to Barrera.I think he was an all around more complete fighter.

 

I think Morales is greater too anarci, but I'm talking more in terms of ability at their best. i don't think there's much separating them really.

I see Barrera doing better against Gomez than Zarate did too, though I don't much fancy him to win the fight.

 

Mab

 

I think it weighs in on the issue of dominance. I think Barrera beats Zamora, but wouldn't do it in such a dominant fashion.

Point taken, though I think you underrate the bantam division during Zarate's tenure.

Barrera gets points for a better resume and more longevity. Never said any different.

 

THe aggressive Barrera and the one that could actually have realistically fought zamora, gets knocked out imo, probably suddenly and quite early.Of course the more rounded one that fought Hamed and onward would be favourite and my pick to weather the storm.

 

You think the Barrera that got hit so much by Mckinney is a lock to beat Zamora?.I sure as hell don't, it's a very risky fight for him, as he would likely need to wear Alfonso down.And of course i don't think he was an unskilled brawler.


You just set this thread up to try and make Barrera look good didn't you.

\I wouldn't say Marco is more complete than Zarate incidentally.I'd put both on a similar level there, with Barrera having the edge as pure boxer and Zarate as puncher.

Both are a bit overestimated in the grand scheme of things now that i think about it more.hamed vs Barrera wasn't exactly McCallum vs Graham for quality was it?.

 

I just rank Zarate higher because I think he was the better fighter. Barrera's resume is deeper sure, but the caliber of fighter he beat is no better. He wasn't as dominant against the crop he faced either (even disregarding Morales). I can't see a Junior Jones, even at his Bantamweight best, beating Zarate.

 

I would say Pintor at Bantam was equally as stern a test as Morales at 122 though, even if Zarate's performance (as well as Pintors) wasn;t shall we say, aesthetically pleasing

I feel Barrera is above Zarate to be honest, on further reflection. However, despite not outboxing opponents as Barrera did, I find Zarate's approach just as decisive and kudos worthy. I feel his era at Bantam has been strangely slated today; for me it was the 2nd best era for the division.

 

There's nothing wrong with sticking up for your favourite fighter, especially when you do so with good reasoning as you do.

Boxing is music though, and others prefer the sound Zarate made. Not me for one, I'd rank Barrera higher.

Personally I just can't get over how the likes of Pintor, Davila, Martinez, zamora, are being discarded as the remnants of an average division.

 

Sometimes that's what it comes down to when certain posters see two close fighters though isn't it. Sweet Pea himself gave his reasons. You may find his reasoning flawed in this instance and you're in your right to do so.

But 'Boxing Ain't Maths, It's Music' to (probably slightly mis)quote a very knowledgable poster on here.

If a poster thinks the Zamora win was a very good one, he's within his right to do so.

It's hardly 'Rooster/Norris' territory, is it?