Would u consider Oscar De La Hoya an ATG?

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  1. Gesta

    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who has Floyd beaten to be an ATG?, what about Hopkins?, JCC?

    DLH beat JCC, Sweet Pea (both not prime but still very good) Vargas, SSM, Tito etc....
     
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    JCC and Sweet Pea were ole ass men.

    Vargas was nothing but a stale Trinidad leftover.

    Shane and Tito both have a big "L" next to them on ole Fishnets' record. Stop playing crazy.

    So AGAIN I ask, exactly WHO did ole Fishnets beat to be considered an ATG?
     
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    Do you consider Tito to be an ATG?


    Look, it's easy to tear down basically ANYBODY's resume by sprinkling a bit of hatorade. Oscar is an ATG whether you like it or not.
     
  4. Gesta

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    Who has Floyd, JCC, Hopkins beaten?

    Who has Dempsey beaten?

    Who has L. Lewis beaten?

    Who has RJJ beaten , a green Hopkins? or a weight drained Toney? and a lot of bums? (not my thoughts)
     
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    AGAIN I ask, exactly WHO did ole Fishnets beat to be considered an ATG?
     
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    And you STILL have not answered the question.
     
  7. Gesta

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    DLH beat JCC, Sweet Pea (both not prime but still very good) Vargas, SSM, Tito etc....
     
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    Who has Floyd, JCC, Hopkins beaten?

    Who has Dempsey beaten?

    Who has L. Lewis beaten?

    Who has RJJ beaten , a green Hopkins? or a weight drained Toney? and a lot of bums? (not my thoughts)
     
  9. schuey100

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    Definitely
     
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    JCC and Sweat Pea were ole ass men.

    Vargas = Trinidad leftover.

    DLH has never beat Trinidad or Mosley. You Fishnets nuthuggers need to come to terms with reality.
     
  11. Monte Fisto

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    nope, lost to Floyd, Pac, Mosleyx2, B-Hop, Tito. beat who? over the hill Chavez, Camacho and quetionable DEC over Quartey and Sturm. He was above average but not ATG
     
  12. THE BLADE 2

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    Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey, Vargas, Ruelas.... He fought everybody and was around a lon time. As you said, he lost a lot of times but that does not change that he should be a lower TOP 100 ATG. Between spot 80 to 100.

    You got to be aware that you can pick apart anybody's resume.
     
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    People misunderstand the term ATG.

    ATG means TOP 100 as defined by the Ring Magazine.DH is a lower ATG, just as trindiad, Mosley, Calzaghe, James Toney. You will have a hard time finding 100 boxers to rank above them. The only knock on DH is that he lost a lot of significant fights.

    Guys like Quartey and Vargas are not, you see the difference?
     
  14. Monte Fisto

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    yeah i see the difference. i give him credit for not ever ducking a fight. he was very talented. i'd just have a hard time ranking him over 85-90 (The Ring's definition of ATG is different from my own, i would say top 50 are the ATG's.). If Ali lost 6 of his 8 biggest fights, where would he be? gotta win the big fights. but thats just in my opinion. To each his own.
     
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    Agreed. Not higher than 85 seems to be fair to me. DH has just lost too many significant fights.