Team Pacquiao concerned with penalties if blood test(s) come back dirty

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PBFred, Dec 30, 2009.


  1. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    This is getting more pathetic by the minute. If I were a ******* attorney, I would advise everyone to just shut up until the results are in.

    Bribes? False blood tests? Covering the 1% chance that Pacquiao is dirty - Hasn't it been 0% for the past several months?

    This is REALLY embarrassing. You guys should start looking for a Filipino ping pong champion or something, if you need a professional athlete to worship mindlessly.
     
  2. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    18 months to gain around 15lbs of functional muscle mass on a 5'6 130lb frame is HIGHLY irregular, especially considering this person' body has been stressed and adapted for at least 5-10 years. Adding muscle is nothing new, but retaining the explosive power and speed of a lighter frame is not nearly as common.

    Anyway, this has been covered and is off the thread topic.

    Lots of people have great genetics. Virtually every professional athlete does. But this indicated INCREDIBLE genetics.
     
  3. BizarroRJJ

    BizarroRJJ Active Member Full Member

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    Another expert on how/why someones body cannot look as it does without PED's. Can you explain Floyds body transformation and weight gain as well? Its silly to even try to judge this stuff from photos.

    JJax, your mom and sister sent a telegram from ***** island. Theyre tired of ****ing natives all day, they want to come home now. Go get them and quit worrying about Pac or Floyd. Take care of your family.
     
  4. jjax

    jjax Active Member Full Member

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    Ugh. Please listen to your attorney's advice.

    I guess it's my fault for expecting an ounce of credibility on Pacland's sister forum, aka ESB.
     
  5. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Um, less than a pound a month of muscle gain is nothing spectacular or out of the ordinary. Especially for someone who would have exerted a great deal of effort to hold back on their mass.

    And when did he gain this mass? between which fights?
     
  6. box247

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    Fair enough, but we cant say he is on anything until its proven. Just because Floyd says so. I know u will argue he should take the test. But if thats whats due maybe boxing should change the rules and make it compulsory for everyone. Until they do he is within his rights to agree to what negotiations he wants.

    We can talk about pac refusing ests, but what about floyd ducking fights. Hes been doing it for years. I'm all for negotiations as every fighter wants the edge but it proves nothing. Everyone is entitled to feel suspicios but innocent until proven guilty
     
  7. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    you are right, he can refuse to take the test..no one is saying he can't

    also, the floyd ducking thing has been shown to be not true, and has no bearing on manny's drug test

    guilty or not, if he wants the fight, he needs the test...if he doesn't then move along alreeady...just plz, for the sake of the fans, make up your mind quickly...say ok, test, or no, and release a PR saying that there will be no manny/pac fight (i know it's not his job for the PR) and sign a new one
     
  8. box247

    box247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah I know. Its just one of those artcles anyone can write. I was just posting it as another opinion. Everyone has one, like all us guys do on ESB. But we are all speculating. Its what keeps the discussions on this going.
     
  9. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no one gains a pound a month of muscle naturally.. If gain muscle you will gain fat, then the second part of that equation is to lose the fat can keep the muscle.. this is where drug like thermos and a hormone called trend would work. but it is very very very hard to gain lean muscle in 6 months, let alone 1 month the correct way, even with Roids.
     
  10. box247

    box247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There probably will be a fight maybe just not in March. This is all a hype job. One of them will cave or new modified agreement will be made for the future. If isnt we will just have to assume they both ducked depending on which camp we support.
     
  11. BizarroRJJ

    BizarroRJJ Active Member Full Member

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    Im not even a Pac fan twat face. What I can do is read an article and understand the perspective/reasoning for a specific question from a particular individual. Small brains like yourself and the lay public see a statement like that and run with it. It means nothing about guilt coming from a rep or lawyer concerning a contract and is expected to be asked.

    Once again, your mom and sister want to leave ***** island. Please go get them.
     
  12. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gaining a pound of lean muscle in one month through weight liftings is EASY, with the right training and nutrition.

    Do you even know how much a pound weighs?

    People gain fat during bulk phases indeed, but due to calorific excess cause they dont want to hamper their muscle gains.

    The last sentence ... what the **** are you on about? youre saying that by taking anabolic steroids you'd struggle to gain mass in half a year? I don't think you have any idea what you're on about.
     
  13. joe namath's gin

    joe namath's gin Active Member Full Member

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    This reporter should be sued for slander just like Mayweather and ODLH.

    Pacquiao uses a regular regimen of pinoy stick beatings to stay naturally ripped...
     
  14. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Is Manny going to sue the writer of this article as well? Pac is going to be busy with all the lawsuits that he's going to need to prepare.
     
  15. jjax

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    TheUnstoppable, I updated my earlier post around the same time as you replied to the pre-updated version.

    The main factor to remember is not to Compare a 5'6 130lbs professional athlete of over 10yrs to a scrawny 19yr old 6'0 computer programmer when considering potential gains.

    I can't believe that Pacquiao was never exposed to weight lifting before the age of 30, or that his body never had to grow to adapt to the vigor of training. He has been a pro athlete for 14 years, the likelihood of some breakthrough training program having such a monumental impact is highly unlikely. And the idea of maintaining explosive power and gaining purely functional muscle mass at that age and under those conditions is virtually unheard of.

    Consider these examples: JM Marquez above 126, R Marquez at 122, Darchinyan vs Agbeko, Paul Williams is going back to 147, Pavlik at 170, Mosley at 154 against Wright, Diaz moving up against Malignaggi, BJ Penn vs GSP, etc.

    Are you going to argue that Pacquiao has THAT much better genetics than, say, Shane Mosley? Mosley was out of place 7lbs above his weight class. Manny looked big and strong - even the commentators noted how he was fighting as the bigger man - in a division 17lbs above his weight class just 18 months prior.



    Again, this has been discussed in other topics.