Dan Rafeal: Fights not dead YET, but Lawsuit will be the knife in the heart.

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  1. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just caught the interveiw on ESPNews, if you guys get a chance check it out, I think it will run again in about 30 mins.

    Dan goes on to say that this is NOT a ploy to make the fight bigger, he said its about as serious a situation that he has seen in all his years covering boxing. He said that Arum doesnt appear to have much interest in having the fight made when all he will commment about now is they are moving on and looking to set up a fight with Foreman...MORE ON THAT IN A SECOND.

    Rafeal said that both sides are dug in and not going to move on thier stance, that the Mayweather camp feels like they have given in on other things and arent going to give in on this one, and the Pac camps seems to think that filing a suit vs people in the Mayweather camp will not effect the fight.

    Now Im not one to toot my own horn but I called this, I said right after the fight with Cotto that Pac would fight Chavez Jr at 154, but we all know what happened to him, so now they are looking to pull out another David Diaz and fight the weakest belt holder at 154.

    One last thing, of course the Pac camp doesnt think that the lawsuit will effect the fight because they arent planning on making the fight.:good
     
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  2. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not a ploy to one side, anyway.

    Manny's trying to step up to Pretty Boy, Mr. HBO himself, and is folding like a kite.
     
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  3. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    Manny has gotten horrible advise.
     
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  4. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Filing a lawsuit is 'folding like a kite'.

    Jeez, some ******s on here.
     
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  5. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Manny looks really bad...just watched the interview and a few of the people who believed what he was sayiny now think he is on some ****...it is slowly coming down for pac now...a shame too..he had the chance to be part of the biggest fight in the history of the sport....he messed all that up over a simple random blood test
     
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  6. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe not but its like folding up your tent and going home. This all but ensures that the fight isnt going to happen. You *******s are crazy if you somehow things this will solve anything. Problem is Manny is going to lose the case if it gets that far, and my guess is that its going to be thrown out for the simple reason is they are banking on some second hand information.
     
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  7. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's losing the PR battle badly - releasing brutal "official statements" making him sound like a ******, filing fruity lawsuits for $75k, members of his team are contradicting each other and themselves, Arum's crying like a little hoe "fight is off" every other hour and nobody takes him seriously anymore.

    He's ducking pal, face it and getting spanked in the court of public opinion. Wouldn't you consider this folding like a kite?
     
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  8. lyraus

    lyraus Member Full Member

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    This is absolutely ridiculous. The odds of Manny winning this case are very slim, will take YEARS to resolve anyway, and will doing NOTHING to clear his name. The only way to clear his name would have been to take the tests.

    It really looks like this fight isn't gonna happen now and I've really lost a ton of respect for both sides over this. The one thing that neither side has mentioned in this whole, petty fiasco is the FANS! Fans of both fighters should be absolutely furious about this. Instead of supporting your fighter, how about turning around and emailing to complain to them that they are walking away from the biggest fight in boxing. Then turn around and send that same email to the other fighter.
     
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  9. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    sorry man but ur boy is losing the public relations battle....u can't argue with a man who is asking for more drug testing..at least in this day of age...
     
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  10. blastmaster122

    blastmaster122 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Riiiiiiiiiight... :nut
     
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  11. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    That was my impression from the start, I've said it all along. Update appreciated.
     
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  12. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In your expert opinion LOL
     
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  13. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

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    The only way he can stop this shite is by taking the blood test. Pac has got a bunch of dumb advisers.
     
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  14. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What the heck are you talking about? There is no "both sides" to this! There is the cheating side and the not cheating side. The side that wants the truth and the side that doesn't want the truth. Which side are you on?

    Fans have NOTHING to do with this from FMJ's perspective. He has done any and everything he could to make this fight. Is your suggestion that a man should put his life on the line against a cheater?

    I call BS.
     
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  15. D_knowsboxing

    D_knowsboxing The King is back Full Member

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    either his advisors are dumb or they know that he's on that ****.
     
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