The most over-rated so called all time great in history?

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  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Who was it? Not trying to discredit any fighters here but some fighters seem to gain the all time great accolade under very strange circumstances! You can be a good, very capable fighter without joining the best of all time....

    The obvious choice is Joe C, but we've debated him to death.... I've got two more..... First Kostya Tszyu.....What? When and how did he become an all time great? He was really good wasn't he ut he beat hardly anyone of note in their prime!!! Very powerful but who is he greater than?

    Carlos Monzon.... I've heard a few call him the best ever but having watched him I can't see what made him so outstanding. The middleweight division seemed beriffed of talent and he scored wins over Benny Briscoe and a decrepid Emile Griffith... But no -one else... any thoughts?
     
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  2. MIK1000

    MIK1000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano
     
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  3. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No ones calling JC an atg that I know of. (GF dosen't count as its a hive of cretins.) Monzon is a fantastic mw with a wonderfull control of distance, great timing, good power, rolls royce of a jab, prodigious physical strength. Clearly an atg and the best mw I've ever seen. He's not particularly fast or flashy so maybe thats why he dosen't impress you. As for KT, certainly not an atg but if anyone in the gf thinks so who gives a ****?
     
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  4. BamBam

    BamBam The Brick Fist Mafia Full Member

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    I don't know what Jeffros parameters for this are but I find that very harsh. He beat everyone there was to beat. If anyone took him the distance he gave them a rematch and knocked them out. I really don't know what else he could do. I mean I get why people think hes rated too highly sometimes but winning all his fights and KO'ing 90% of his opponents is about all the man could have done
     
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  5. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :D heers i'll re watch
     
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  6. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    TBH he couldn't have done a lot more but he was around at a pretty weak time in his division (not his fault!) and gets too much credit for his career from some of quarters for a variety of reasons (HW, white, American, unbeaten).
     
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  7. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali thought Marciano would have been his toughest fight.
     
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  8. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mike Tyson beat all comers ( many bums ) on his way to the title but when he came up against some opposition that did not **** themselves or get draggged in by intimidation he was beatable...:yep

    Many class Tyson as an ATG, I class him as a World Champion from his era...that's it...:yep
     
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  9. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Was he trying to sell that computer fight at the time???;)
     
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  10. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How did you know!!:lol:
     
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  11. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    ****ing hell!!! 9 posts in and we've already slagged of The Rock and Tyson, this thread is going to go for pages.....:lol:
     
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  12. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I'm a cynical old fart!!:D
     
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  13. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you realise how sad we are posting on this site over new years?!?:patsch
     
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  14. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    :lol: I'm a "boxing day" man myself. The pubs are too busy and full of idiots on new years eve. I'll have a good day out tomorrow when things have got back to 'normal'.
     
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  15. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yepAs the years clock up that does click in doesn't it, I'm afraid I'm turning into a real grumpy old *******...

    New Years Resolution, let **** fly by me a bit more
     
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