Floyd knew manny would say no all along

There is no argument to be made, these people who believe that Floyd had some sort of master plan all along are simply denying the obvious : Pacman is either 1) Juiced up or 2) Ducking the fight or 3) This is all just hype for the fight and both camps are working together.

NO ONE could have predicted things would turn out this way, NO ONE.

If Floyd wanted to truly duck, he could have asked for a 60-40 split or said that he was not compromising on the size of the gloves, or retired again, or moved up in weight, or taken a host of other options. To say that he would take the gamble of agreeing to the contract, on the assumption that Duckman would call off the entire thing on account of blood testing, is ****ing ridiculous.

 

*******s are obsessively crazy in th lengths they will go to to defend their fighter. Making up all sorts of conspiracy theories and secret mastr plans from Floyd LOL. Its funny, and yet sadly pathetic at the same time.

 

I know Manny is pissed. He has a right to be, but, fuggin' take the test. Man, this shite looks bad enough. People ain't gonna believe him. They aren't that stupid. Suing is a cop out. Be a man, Pac. Take the fuggin' test. Floyd has to be whoudini to know Pac was gonna say no.

 

The thing is, history will show Pac passed all his drug tests and fought everyone he should have. What it won't show is Mayweather fighting Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, P.Williams and Pac.

 

but guess what, all Pac had to do was agree to it and Floyd would have been pushed into a corner and would have had to take the fight.

So Pac let him off the hook and is just as responsible for this fight not happening. Both fighters go to hell!!!

 

but guess what, all Pac had to do was agree to it and Floyd would have been pushed into a corner and would have had to take the fight.

So Pac let him off the hook and is just as responsible for this fight not happening. Both fighters go to hell!!!

 

Exactly. I don't care how much you like Manny or hate Floyd, or both. The whole idea is ****ing ******ed.

 

Ive read it all hear in the last few days. Agree to test. collect $4o mill., prove the accusers wrong, beat PBF and become an atg:huh

 

Hes dirty

 

Sorry *****s, if it smells like a duck, walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, then by golly it's the FACTS:

Guarantee a cut off date - NOPE
NFL, MLB, NBA drug testings agencies - NOPE
Independent agency - NOPE

Then they start backtracking. :huh

Schaefer

FH: If there was a third party involved or hired to do the blood-testing, who or what would it be?

Schaefer: I have some suggestions. One of which was actually the one which Top Rank had recommended, which is the agency that does the NFL and Major League Baseball [The National Center for Drug Free Sports, based in Kansas City, Mo.] The problem is they only do urine.

But I'm sure that if they do urine, they could probably retain someone else to do the blood testing as well. If it would be that agency, that would be okay with us as long as it's random, it's urine, it's blood, and it is cut off at a date prior to the fight which maintains the integrity of the tests.

Wonder why they didn't accept it the first time. :huh

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Schaefer

"We are OK to move off USADA," Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who is representing Mayweather, told ESPN.com. "What we're saying, and what is important to us, is four things -- that the tests be random, that they include blood and urine and the time frame, meaning when do you stop the tests before the fight but know they will still be effective. Three of them we have agreed on -- random, blood and urine. So now it is a matter of the two sides working out the specifics of the cutoff date to assure it will still be effective."

Arum

“Schaefer is making it up,” Arum said without hesitation.
...
“It is not true, it is just not true. He is making this up now because he looks bad. He is making this up because he is trying to justify it to Mayweather. Let’s see if he can justify it to Mayweather why this fight is now dead.”

Isn't the issue here, the "RANDOM" blood test? And has it been "AGREED" upon? :huh

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Schaefer

"Now that I've learned more about this, boxing now will have an outspoken advocate for blood testing in the sport," Schaefer said. "I plan to ask Nevada to have Travis Tygart explain why blood tests are necessary. This is not about hitting a baseball, throwing a football or hitting a puck. This is a sport that's mano-a-mano, with guys hitting each other's heads. It's important that the strongest testing possible is in place."

Arum

"No. 2, we would agree to take the blood test in January within 30 days of the fight and any other random blood tests that the Nevada State Athletic Commission elected to do without a timeline," said Arum. "We're so confident that the Nevada Commission would do the right thing that we don't have to put a timeline in there."

Kizer

GL: As of now have any petitions been filed?

KK: "No."

:huh

 

Of course floyd knew manny would have trouble with the demands
he even watch the video of manny expressing his fears over blood being drawn before the loss

 

well, lets see who Floyd fights and see if he backs up the test talk himself

 

I'd like to try my hand at a possible counter statement to the proposed challenge just for kicks if you don’t mind…

It is fact both camps were able to surprisingly come to terms on gloves, purse, venue etc. in a timely manner. Be it there were disputes about the venue, it was eventually resolved.

It is a fact that prior to the trio mandate of Olympic style testing made by the Mayweather camp, a particular member associated with this camp had made allegations accusing Pacquiao of steroid use.

It is a fact that Pacquiao does not want to be tested so near to a fight due to the fact it may weaken him.

It is a fact Mayweather accepted the "10 Million over the weight limit" clause; an absurd and uncalled for request as many boxing fans believe.

It is a fact Floyd Mayweather has the hugest ego in the sport, if not all of sports today.

It is a fact Manny has never tested positive for any illegal substances.

It is a fact Mayweather loves his “0”. It’s his biggest argument when he compares himself to fighters people challenge him to face.

It is a fact Floyd is known to not step up and take "high risk challenges"; best defensive fighter currently in my eyes. He fights on precision and timely evasiveness. Enough to get the win, certainly getting the job done.

Let’s mesh these facts together somehow shall we?
Maywaether was quick to agree to gloves, venue, weight etc.
But…

Why would someone with as big an ego as Mayweather be bullied into accepting a 10 Million Dollar over the weight clause? This would be a big risk; a type of risk Mayweather would not want to play with, given the fact he opposes high risk situations and plays it safe; which is evident in how he fights and who he fights. UNLESS, he knows it isn’t a risk because he knows he would never have the chance to give up 10 Million dollars. Why? Because he knows the fight won’t happen.

How will this fight not happen? Mayweather will have to play his royal flush and bring out a rare hand. This hand is a hand never seen in boxing before, it is a hand that most would never expect him to expose; he will ask Pacquiao to take Olympic style blood testing. A type of testing wherein random blood tests will be taken at any given point they wish. A type of testing never requested upon an athlete from another athlete in professional boxing.

Other than the fact they think Pacquiao is taking steroids, they also know his dislike for blood testing so close to the fight.

This adheres to increasing Mayweather’s ego as well as getting out of the fight. How? He knows Pacquiao will not accept his demands; Mayweather is insistent on following only HIS OWN DEMANDS. Demands which Pacquiao will not accept, because it may weaken him. EVEN IF Pacquiao will try for another alternative blood testing, Mayweather will not give up his hand; it is the only way he can win in this game. If he gives in, he’ll have to fight, he’ll have to risk going over weight at the weigh-in, and he’ll have to risk his zero. Thus Mayweather can keep his 10 Million safe as well as his record. This is the reason why the Mayweather camp will not accept any of Pacquiao’s proposal’s for alternative blood testing.

His ego is fed because, when Pacquiao does not accept these demands he will be looked on as a “cheat”. And because he’s a cheat; Mayweather can just say “I won’t fight this guy unless I know he’s completely 100% drug free; but until then, something fishy is going on”. Thus dismissing Pacquiao as a probable opponent. Even though Pacquiao has never been tested positive for drugs, his legacy will be ruined because of his refusal to take a test that will be of danger to him as he sees.

40 Million is a lot of money; but take away 10 million and more so taking away a possible perfect record? That is priceless in Mayweather’s eyes. He’ll fight to keep it, but in such a way it looks as he wasn’t ducking to protect his ego. This would almost be the perfect plan; it’s been working so far.

This is my try at why Mayweather would have known Pacquaio would have never taken the fight. Feel free to poke at it or anything, just a possible explanation. Most of it’s speculation anyways, but it’s possible I think.

 

i think your post might actually be make too much sense for some of the forum members to understand

as larry merchant said, if floyd was going to duck manny, it would've happened when they discussed the split