They debated Pac/FMJ fight on ESPN First Take show this morning. ESPN is misinformed!

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  1. Jacory Harris

    Jacory Harris I'm a gorilla I'm a dawg! Full Member

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    Exactly! Glad to see someone who has comprehensive reading skills. The point was that Bayless was saying that Pacquiao is refusing because Floyd wants him to test ON THE DAY OF THE FIGHT which is a crock of pure grade-A horse ****. Luke-O is so far up Manny's ass that it's sickening.
     
  2. Fighting Pride

    Fighting Pride Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Karma's a *****
    L'il Joy Boy's now getting the heat he deserves
    I hope phrases "Gay like Floyd" "***** ***** Mayweather" become common place in gansta rap
    They wouldn't be unsubstantiated
    Hit the carnt where it hurts
     
  3. nbg75

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    if Pac agrees to random testing he could be tested on the day of the fight. so Bayless is right in his analysis. the TS is the one who is misinformed
     
  4. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought I'm the only one who noticed that:good
     
  5. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    If ANYONE knew all the facts at this point I'd be surprised. This crap remind anyone of the Tower of Babble? :deal
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    actually i have pointed it out but the guy has no response at all. noobs registering this december just to participate on this steroids bull**** talks in support for their one and only floyd.
     
  7. hoot

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    Skip Bayless is misinformed on a lot of discussions they have. I don't know how that guy even has that job
     
  8. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    This from a group of people who still use "scared of needles" as an argument.
    And ESPN is uninformed.
     
  9. lyraus

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    like it or not, ESPN is the voice of casual fans. And 95% of the people who would end up buying this fight fall into that category. So if ESPN paints Floyd out to be the bad guy here, than the vast majority of America is gonna view him as the bad guy.

    And let's not be stupid here, even us hardcore fans know that the reason Floyd is asking for USADA testing has nothing to do with the integrity of boxing, because he's never asked for it before and we know damn well he won't be asking for it if he fight anyone other than Pac. It's an obvious ploy to either a) give himself a mental edge, or b) get out of the fight itself.
     
  10. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    FACTS

    Guarantee a cut off date - NOPE
    NFL, MLB, NBA drug testings agencies - NOPE
    Independent agency - NOPE

    Then they start backtracking. :huh

    Schaefer

    FH: If there was a third party involved or hired to do the blood-testing, who or what would it be?

    Schaefer: I have some suggestions. One of which was actually the one which Top Rank had recommended, which is the agency that does the NFL and Major League Baseball [The National Center for Drug Free Sports, based in Kansas City, Mo.] The problem is they only do urine.

    But I'm sure that if they do urine, they could probably retain someone else to do the blood testing as well. If it would be that agency, that would be okay with us as long as it's random, it's urine, it's blood, and it is cut off at a date prior to the fight which maintains the integrity of the tests.

    Wonder why they didn't accept it the first time. :huh

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    Schaefer

    "We are OK to move off USADA," Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who is representing Mayweather, told ESPN.com. "What we're saying, and what is important to us, is four things -- that the tests be random, that they include blood and urine and the time frame, meaning when do you stop the tests before the fight but know they will still be effective. Three of them we have agreed on -- random, blood and urine. So now it is a matter of the two sides working out the specifics of the cutoff date to assure it will still be effective."

    Arum

    “Schaefer is making it up,” Arum said without hesitation.
    ...
    “It is not true, it is just not true. He is making this up now because he looks bad. He is making this up because he is trying to justify it to Mayweather. Let’s see if he can justify it to Mayweather why this fight is now dead.”

    Isn't the issue here, the "RANDOM" blood test? And has it been "AGREED" upon? :huh

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    Schaefer

    "Now that I've learned more about this, boxing now will have an outspoken advocate for blood testing in the sport," Schaefer said. "I plan to ask Nevada to have Travis Tygart explain why blood tests are necessary. This is not about hitting a baseball, throwing a football or hitting a puck. This is a sport that's mano-a-mano, with guys hitting each other's heads. It's important that the strongest testing possible is in place."

    Arum

    "No. 2, we would agree to take the blood test in January within 30 days of the fight and any other random blood tests that the Nevada State Athletic Commission elected to do without a timeline," said Arum. "We're so confident that the Nevada Commission would do the right thing that we don't have to put a timeline in there."

    Kizer

    GL: As of now have any petitions been filed?

    KK: "No."

    :huh
     
  11. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    Can't argue with that.
     
  12. Hermit

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    I watched the clip of the guy with the Nevada commission being interviewed. He seemed like a knowledgeable guy in terms of testing. I know NOTHING myself, nor do I really care to. I just don't have the need.

    For Arum/Pac to say they would leave it all up to him/Nevada commission was a perfectly reasonable response in the end. It is his charge to make sure the fighters are clean

    Is Floyd truly afraid that Pac is juicing and would have an edge and only one type of testing is valid? Could very well be. Are they right? I have no idea. I've tried to stay out of this for the most part. If I hadn't I'd have gotten my 10K posts in by years end. :lol:
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    exactly.
     
  14. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny how that works ONLY when someone is backing Pac??? In all the other threads that have been started here with ESPN as the source I dont hear *******s saying things like this. It only goes to show how blind and truely unknowing *******s are about boxing.
     
  15. Who is misinformed? That is the most accurate assessment I've heard in the mainstream American media thus far.

    The USADA would absolutely include fight night on their schedule for random blood testing. This point was made outright and was the initial concern of Team Pacquiao with regards to the testing protocol.