Roach now wants Pacquiao vs Marquez

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  1. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    1. what does that have to do with pac/pbf?

    2. what does that have to do with pac/pbf?

    3. 10MM/pound is ridiculously high, but was agreed upon to with no fight by pbf, again showing he is not the one being difficult in negotiations
     
  2. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    This is so true, yet the *******s constantly claim that it's ridiculous for mayweather to ask for stricter drug testing because it's "outside the rules of boxing."

    hypocrites
     
  3. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    I understand that JMM fight has nothing to do with it but the fact is if 8oz was good enough in his last fight versus Pac's rival, I don't see PBF even blinking when he decided to agree to the gloves. Yes I agree it was still a concession on PBF's part but not in the same planet as the drug testing change. The closest precedence to that request was Mosley which GBP rejected. And Mosley is an admitted user.
     
  4. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But maybe they really think he's on something, maybe they're trying to ensure a fair fight. Maybe they feel the current testing procedure is really a farce. I mean, if you were about to fight the biggest fight of your career with everything at stake and you thought your opponent may be taking something to give him an edge, wouldn't you want stricter testing procedures executed?
     
  5. Beenie

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    Your citing terms that are negotiated on in virtually every significant prizefight. Of course there will be concessions as there are in every other fight negotiation. It's however not typical, to say the least, to negotiate the terms of blood testing. And so to point out that PBF has made concessions on typical negotiating terms while Pac refuses to concede on an unprecedented negotiating terms is not the same thing.
     
  6. war4years

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    Yeah, it's not a minimal thing. Pac is on steroids. If he accepts this testing, then he won't be able to use his PEDs for the fight, and he will lose. So, not fighting is a better alternative to that.
     
  7. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Name the last time a 10 million dollar penalty was instituted in a prize fight for coming in overweight. I'll wait.
     
  8. sandy mac

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    Floyd met all of freddie and manny's concessions,outside of the regular rules.Floyd makes one demand and manny and freddie run away.Take the test and the fight.How can you blame Floyd?He met all of thier bull**** conditions.If the scales are'nt loaded in thier favor team pecckeroid run home crying.Look at his last fights,catchweights,picked paper titles Marquez was the last legitimate threat he faced.Four years for a rematch.No third fight.**** roach and peckeroid!!!!
     
  9. Beenie

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    So their hesitation is ultimately what's causing this fight not to happen, yes? :yep
     
  10. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Correct. There are no unified "rules of boxing" on a lot of these things because state boxing commissions don't all do things the same. For example: Colorado apparently takes a blood test as part of their PED testing protocol. Nevada does not. Also, by definition catchweights are outside of the "rules of boxing", but we see those quite a bit. Contract stipulations have become very common and can include anything from glove type/size to ring size to catchweights to weight penalties to PED testing protocols, etc. This isn't anything new.
     
  11. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    There is 0 credibility for the Mayweather argument.
    People who defend it are openly lying.
     
  12. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Imbecile
     
  13. Beenie

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    Unprecedented but warranted considering Floyd's willingness to pay weight penalties. Obviously the penalty amount was set at such a high amount to deter Floyd from doing the same thing that he did against JMM.

    The blood tests are unwarranted because Pac has a clean past free of any tangible suspicion.

    There's the difference. :deal
     
  14. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    how many time has floyd not made weight?


    how many times has pac not made weight?
     
  15. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Not typical, but not unprecedented, and not nearly as big of a deal as some are making it out to be, IMO. Again, no medical evidence suggests that these routine blood tests will weaken anybody. I know Manny tried to use this excuse in the past after a loss, along with his gloves, but did you know he also tried to blame a loss on his ****ing socks? True story.