There are loads of stories of Lee beating amateur boxers, thai guys etc He trained so much that I'm sure he could do some good things. He clearly had a decent amount of talent as he was fast and agile. However I don't think he could beat the best i.e. MMA today would play with him. I'd compare him to Cung Le. Great kicks, awful hands, weak grappling and without the real experience of facing true mixed martial arts or even the best of combat styles i.e. kick boxing. All the guards he uses I think are ineffective. Alot of his sequences are for show and someone like BJ would **** him up. Lee is a physical specimen though and has inspired great fighters - Sugar Ray Leonard, BJ Penn etc... but then again so has rocky.
Bruce lee sent a Judo Champion flying into the wall with 1 kick. The man was EXTREMELY powerful. His I.Q. on fighting and him mastering the human body the way he did would have been to much for any opponent IMO. Bruce Lee didn't have to have pro fights to have proven himself. He's considered the greatest Martial Artist of the 20th century. You don't get that label by being a sucker. His teaching's and philosphy's are still relevant today. He's still being studied by millions (including myself) and also many fighters. Jeet Kune Do is very difficult and not everyone can master it. Fighters like Luke Cummo & Ben Saunders study it. BJ Penn is a great fighter, but I would never wanna see him with a Bruce Lee (fantasy speaking of course) BJ would get kicked in his leg then punched in his face faster than he can say "Just Scrap" then he'd be unconscious. Comparing a fictional character like Rocky to Bruce Lee is absolutely absurd.
BJ would beat the **** out of Bruce. The absolute crap out of him. Takedown ground and pound followed by whatever submission he desires.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BluUhcEvPtI[/ame] Lee's grappling isn't in the same stratosphere as BJ's. If he keeps it standing BJ's boxing alone would dominate Lee's stand up. BJ's chin is too strong and his punch too powerful for the fight to go long. That's not even taking into account that BJ's hands are FAR superior to Lee's.
That statement right there is proof you don't know **** about Lee. Bruce loved to Box. He studied many Boxers. Jeet Kune Do was a mixture of alot of techniques and the movement of it is Boxing fundamentals. Haven't you ever seen Lee really train? Haven't you seen his movies? He moved like a Boxer. He loved Ali. He studied Ali. Lee's handspeed alone would have BJ blind as ****. He would knock BJ out. Lee's feints were cat like. He'd fake BJ then hit him with whatever he wants. Sure BJ has good Boxing, but NOWHERE near the speed of Lee. Or footwork. As far as Lee's grappling, he was choked out once by Judo legend Gene Lebell. No shame in that. He saw a whole in his game and he fixed it as best he could. Thus he displayed an Armbar in Enter The Dragon. Was Lee's grappling on BJ's level? No. Brazilian Jiu-jitsu wasn't as main stream back then as it is now, infact wasn't Royce the first man to display it to us? And that was in 1993. Lee died in 1973. He probably hadn't even heard of Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. But if it was around in Lee's time he would have learned it like he did everything else and it would pause your argument that Penn would destroy this man. But Lee had grappling talent. Bruce Lee once said "To defeat a Martial Artist that's been training for 15 yrs, all you have to do is Box and Wrestle for 1 year and you got him". Whether that's true or not we don't really know, but obviously Lee was very aware of how affective Boxing and Wrestling are. He wasn't all about movie effects that were fantasy and knocked you out. He was an all around student of FIGHTING. It was Lee's dream to create a league of combatants of all styles to fight each other. Some like to think MMA was orginally his idea. He was no stranger to Boxing or grappling. He was VERY well aware. That video you posted means ****, that was him by himself just hitting a bag. Don't say "Penn's hands are far superior to Lee's" because Bruce knew how to Box. And his athleticism, feints, and handspeed alone would have had BJ asking himself which way did he go?
Mate, I think anyone who is into combat sports and/or action move knows Bruce Lee. I know him pretty damn well. I've seen pretty much everything there is to see from Lee. I'm sure I've missed a few things but I've seen the majority of it. I know Bruce Lee's life very well. Lee's grappling is very poor. He obviously did some and had some understanding but he was by and large a striker. If Lee's stand up was so great BJ could just shoot, take him down and close the show. Look how side on Lee stands, the guy wouldn't have a scooby about sprawling and would literally be thinking 'what the **** is happening here'. His philosphy sounds brillant, his on screen kicks are mesmerising but the fact of the matter is when we genuinely question him he can't stand up to interrogation. Sure, he read alot about boxing and was heavily influenced by it but his hands are **** poor. I've got video evidence of it. I know he has won ALOT of fights against boxing, muay thai etc but can I please see some footage. The guy was good but he wasn't God. BJ's a professional fighter, a bit of speed doesn't phase him. BJ's a physical freak like Lee BUT he's actually got a genuine martial arts record to back up the cool stunts like jumping 3 foot out of water. Based on facts and evidence, the truth be told Bruce Lee is a very poor man's Cung Le.
Dude you compared him to Rocky:bart You compared him to Rocky. You compared Bruce Lee to Rocky. YOU COMPARED THE GREATEST MARTIAL ARTIST OF THE 20TH CENTURY TO ROCKY. Stallone's fictional character. Rocky Balboa. Rocky Balboa and Bruce Lee you used as a comparisonatsch:blood Then you go on to say Lee is a poor man's Cung Le. Absolutely absurd and ridiculous. Absolutely moronic fool headed. I can understand why you feel Penn would beat him, but your opinions and observations are pretty off. I actually thought you were a good poster, and I still do. With that being said, I've had enough of this conversation. That poor man's Cung Le comment did it for me. The absolute most foolish post I've read today so far. Have a good day sir. I think YOU should "puff puff pass that **** on"
In fairness man. There is no solid proof to dispell what he said. Also if anything Cung Le looks more flashy and quick relitive to his size than Lee ever did.
I aint watching all that bullsht just to hear some douche actor said he fought 'a' thaiboxer. Give me a name, date, and place.
