NO, I wrote "Lee is a physical specimen though and has inspired great fighters - Sugar Ray Leonard, BJ Penn etc... but then again so has rocky." In the manner which I compared them, I was spot on. Sly is a physical specimen and has been inspirational to great fighters like Joe Calzaghe. Sly clearly knows how to box and has sparred with Tarver, Mr T, Lundgren, Leonard etc Guys with REAL fighting experience. Bruce Lee is exactly a poor man's Cung Le. Sensational kicks, awful hands, poor grappling. Cung Le has a genuine fighting legacy on tape whereas Bruce Lee has none. You are hypnotised by Bruce Lee. There is no doubt about that. The most foolish post I've read today is you sayingn he is the greatest martial artist of the 20th century. That is ridiculous to say the least.
True. Cung is a 185 pound man who probably walks around at 200 pounds. Bruce was 135 to 140. P4P Cung would probably be just as impressive if not more so.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEVxaLFGiIo[/ame] So I guess me and the many millions are wrong and you're right Keep it up bro, you're looking great:yep:tired Good day...
bruce lee actor bj penn real fighter ufc lightweight champ prob the greatest lightweight ever, and you think lee would beat penn! good one!
Unproven legacy versus the proven legacy of thousands of genuine martial artists. Yeah, I can see why would you choose the former!
Bruce Lee unproven? Are you a moron or something or are you just trying to annoy me?:? How is Lee unproven dude? Your favorite Martial Artist probably looks up to him. Your logic is moronic. Completely. Compared him to Rocky, Poor man's Cung Le, now unproven? Bruce Lee felt there were to many fixed positions in Wing Chun that wouldn't work in a real fight. HE MADE UP HIS OWN ****IN STYLE, He revolutionized Martial Arts in his time. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? Come to think of it, what's wrong with alot people? You're not the first person that seems to discredit this man.
You think Lee is proven to the same degree as other martial artists from the 20th C? Are you joking? This has to be a wind up. Martial Artist look up to him, I've said that BUT they aren't stupid enough to say he is greater than all the PROVEN martial artists. specimen and inspirational like rocky - FACT. poor man's cung le - FACT. He did make up his own style and you are right, I see many modern MMA crediting their success to JKD atsch It's already been proven that he didn't revolutionise MMA. He just accessed the masses via TV and Hollywood. Jack Dempsey is the commonly used example to demonstrate a MIXED martial artist prior to Lee. I'm not discrediting the man. I just don't have his balls in my mouth and thus I'm telling it like it is.
My eyes are bleeding from this thread. Here's a bit of his sparring footage. Unfortunately, it's worse quality than some of Jack Johnson's... [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOFCMvb43jA[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IavEYSlD0ak[/ame]
The full contact sparring does nothing to convince me that BJ Penn would not brutally brutally own Lee.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BluUhcEvPtI[/ame] bruce lee looking like an amateur on the heavy bag hands at his waist, chin out, little speed and power lol @ his so called "elite" boxing skills fact is guys like bj penn have legit pro records and have proven themselves, all lee has is stories and hear'say, it's not like he couldn't prove himself when he was alive, back then they had boxing, muay thai, judo etc heck he could have even done vale tudo tournamets in brazil if he wanted.
Poor man's Cung Le- NOT A FACT. Simply a moronic statement made by a David Haye fan And who the hell is really talking about MMA? I don't think you're following very well. I'm talking about the man's legacy now, not MMA. So because he didn't revolutionize MMA as a sport (which wasn't even around in his time) that takes away from what he was? Are you actually serious? MMA is a sport dude. I'm talking Martial Arts in general, NOT MMA. And as far who Lee was as a MARTIAL ARTIST, HE WAS 2ND TO NONE. MMA not credtiting Jeet Kune Do means what? Not everyone is good at Jeet Kune Do. The same way certain fighters don't have a ground game, no matter how hard they train. I'm a Lee fanatic (which is obvious) but I don't really study Jeet Kune Do. I'm simply not good at it. My body can't move that way. I'm a Muay Thai, Boxer, & Brazilian Jiu-jitsu guy. And yes, the greatest Martial Artist of the 20th century. The narrator was correct when referencing how high MILLIONS OF OTHER PEOPLE RANK HIM. There was nobody on his radar when he was on top (which was very brief, he died at 32). There's a reason why people talk fantasy matchups involving Bruce Lee and pro fighters. Whether it be vs Boxers, Kickboxers, MMA fighters, etc. We don't often hear **** about Jet Li vs this guy or that guy, or this Martial Artist against this fighter or that fighter, the topic is usually always Bruce Lee Alot of people feel (as an opinion) that Bruce Lee would kick alot of fighters asses today. And I for one feel, if he was still around (though he'd be an old man) MMA might be bigger than it is now.
