When did Pac last compromised...????

Manny is a disgrace to the negotiating table really..he is a ***** and he really never gives into ****....this is the reason we wont be watching floyd-pac...

Only pac fans have this illusion that he does give in and that "his demands" are always understandable but that his opponents demands "don't count"

cant wait for him to beat formane and retire so we could get rid of this pathetic excuse of a lb 4 lb fighter that either does drugs or thinks he is above taking a simple random drug test which would prove his innocense...

Either way he is hurting the sport and i cant wait for his ass to be gone so we can watch fighters who dont use drugs to win fights

 

You forgot to mention avoid at all costs the real threats of the welterweight division since Floyd first entered the division 4 years ago: Cotto, Clottey, Berto, Margarito, Williams, Mosley, and now possibly Pacquiao. Floyd can prove me wrong if he chooses any of these guys for his next fight, but looks like Matthew Hatton will be in for a good payday.

 

A disgrace to the negotiating table? ****, I'd be embarassed if I supported a fighter that could negotiate well.

Truth is SD, you, among everyone else who posts here know half of what we think we all know. You say he's a ***** and never gives into ****. What side of the table did you sit on as they were negotiating?

"Simple random drug test." USADA standards utilize 8 random urine analysis tests and 5 random blood test. So get your facts straight, it's more than just a simple blood test.

Nothing's EVER been indicative to show Manny uses any sort of drugs in any shape or form, yet you talk like you have the ****ing dirty sample under your pillow at night.

He's hurting the sport? You're ****ing hilarious. He's actually accomplished something that Floyd never really did. He has international appeal. While casual fight fans here domestically might've heard of Floyd, you have people internationally who give two shits about boxing, who might've heard of Pac through other exploits, albeit his signing or acting (or lack there of) and follow him or watch his fights.

He's been able to draw the more casual observers to boxing more so than Floyd ever did.

 

I grew up on Tyson and Roy Jr....the first fight I ever watched of Floyd was against Diego and I was hooked. He was just so ****ing talented. He did what he had to do at super feather and lightweight because there just wasn't really any big draws. But as soon as he had the fight with DLH...I was certain..this was it. This is his time to shine and just mop up 147. You've got EVERYBODY lining up at your feet to fight you; you're undefeated, you just were 1/2 in the biggest selling PPV in boxing of all time. Who wouldn't want to fight you?!! Then boom, you retire. atsch

 

atsch

A warrior is someone who doesn't duck anyone screaming RIODS all over the place.

 

Nobody knows **** about who does negotiations. That's why they both have advisers, management teams, etc. Both fighters have repeatedly said, "I do what I do in the ring. It's just my job to fight. I leave it up to my promoter yadda yadda yadda."

Now...we have Pacquiao who fights FOR TOP RANK.

The flipside, we have Mayweather who leads his own Promotional company.

Who do you think has more say in what their negotiations attribute relative to what their management teams want?

 

Ummm that is still a simple ass random blood test pretty much. 5 tests over a two-three month period..... Pretty ****ing simple and random to me.

 

Like they are drawing blood from an artery or something.. Now that **** hurts..

 

The guy says hes superstitious. Last time he gave blood so close to a fight he lost, which was the fight against Morales. Whether or not he truly believes that attributed to the loss, that's his belief. Morales just simply outboxed him that night and was the better man.

So for this guy to say he's superstitious about not wanting to give blood before a fight so close, it's unbelievable? Last I checked, he hasn't lost a bout since then.

No it's not pretty ****ing simple and not as random as you think. Asafa Powell was tested 4 times in 2 days leading up to their capture of the Gold medal in the 4x100 relay in Beijing. Who's to say they wouldn't test Pacquiao EVERY single ****ing day before the fight? Or hell, 2x before the weigh-in and 3x the day of the fight. That's what random is. It's not ONE blood test. USADA standards utilize FIVE blood tests.

 

What don't you understand? You're talking as if you're ****in Ellerbe or Michael Koncz and you have firsthand knowledge of what's negotiated, what's conceded. Your knowledge is based off of what you ****ing read on forums, the articles you read, the shows you watch. That's my point. Nobody here knows **** about what's being given and taken really. The only people that know are the teams that are actually doing the negotiation.

You're trying to make a point that Pacquiao has never conceded or otherwise threatened to walk away. What the **** do you really know? What the **** does anyone know?

 

Your thread title asks of when Pac last compromised. We don't know anything that happens behind closed doors. People only write **** on what they deem worthy about the concessions and most often make up **** to get hits on their articles/websites.

You correlate not wanting to compromise as "that's not a warrior." What the hell does negotiations have anything to do with being a warrior? If Pacquiao conceded 10% more of the purse split vs. De La Hoya, would you consider him more of a warrior then?

When you win fights, beat other big named boxers, that's what you start earning in the sport; bargaining power. Naturally, you'd be hard pressed to name a fighter who started earning big bucks and big paydays fighting in big fights who didn't garner increasingly bigger negotiation power.