Which Heavy Champ ?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Under his own ruleset, Johnson could beat pretty much anyone not strong/well balanced enough to overpower him inside. He would genuinely struggle in the era of super-heavies, probably, but he really did strike me as a freakishly strong human being. Jeffries was monstrously strong and Johnson handled him, all be it a depleted version.

    Johnson had speed, superb timing, great strength and was a good hitter. He's another one that fought smart rather than popular on occasion, and it's a testimony to his quality and showmanship that he got the break out whereas the more exciting McVey or Jeanette did not.
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Arnold Cream is a good shout.

    Louis x 2
    Marciano x 2
    Layne
    Ray x 3
    Gomez
    Sheppard x 2
    Shkor
     
    mcvey, Jan 2, 2010
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  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Lee Q Murray should be on that list and probably Tiger Jack Fox as well.

    Throw in Abe Simon for good measure.
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    In defence of Ketchel, he did walk through Dan Porky Flyn like he was made of paper. He did something to Al Palzer in an exhibition as well.

    Having said that I could certainly give you the benefit of the doubt and strike Ketchel off the list.
     
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  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    :good Pretty much what I was looking for pal.
     
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  6. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    easy. the same one that had the greatest whiskers: ALI:rasta
     
    The Morlocks, Jan 2, 2010
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  7. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali didn't have the best chin, Chuvalo, McCall, and Cobb all had better chins than Ali.

    Ray Mercer fought some big punchers: Lewis, Klitschko, Morrison, Briggs, Witherspoon, Cooper,
     
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  8. Boxed Ears

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    True...but decking Johnson is still a hilarious high point for me. :lol:
     
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  9. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jersey Joe Walcott...fought some terrific punches, Louis,Marciano,Bivins,Elmer Ray,Lee Q Murry,Curtis Sheppard. etc.
     
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  10. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What did Ketchel do to Al Palzer in this exhibition?
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    Ray Mercer wasn't champ tho.
     
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  12. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I could've sworn he was a WBwhatever champ, or are we talking true champs, not alpha crap?
     
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  13. Caponecartels

    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    That's a hell of a list.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    He sure didn't fight these guys as champ tho.
     
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  15. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    t here is no way you can compare those guys to Ali's chin. he didn't just take the punches and get bveat up he took them and thgen won the fights. Cooper, liston, williams, Frazier, foreman, patterson bonavena, holmes, shavers, norton, lyle, etc. it's no contest. over 20 years and still taking the best punches and winning. the other guys don't come close. :rasta
     
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