Larry Merchant on pacquiao-mayweather

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  1. deeta

    deeta Member Full Member

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    http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/01/03/hbos-larry-merchant-on-floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao/

    not sure if this was posted already but i thought this was pretty interesting what larry said in that interview. heres one in particular

    ".. what if they found something? Does Mayweather really want the fight to be canceled, given the fact that he believes strongly that he's going to win?

    Also, given the certainty of making upwards of $30, or, maybe $40 million, does he really want to find something? You can flip that and say, 'If that's what Pacquiao has used to move up the scale, and Mayweather believes that he's going to win any way and is going to make all of that money, then he ought to be thanking the drug-maker.'

    If the drug-maker has delivered this kind of package to Mayweather -- a guy he can beat and a guy that he can make all of this money off of -- then why would he want to screw that up?"

    pretty good logic and very interesting. what ever happend to floyd saying hes gonna beat pacquiao anyways? but now all of a sudden he thinks pacs taking steroids? and now hes not so sure anymore? it doesnt make sense.
     
  2. deeta

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    another good point he makes:

    FH: You say that Manny Pacquiao's upward movement and subsequent success is not unprecedented?

    Merchant: Throughout boxing history, there have been exceptional fighters, and exceptional elite fighters who have started their careers as teenagers and moved up the scale dramatically over time. Is it exceptional? Absolutely. But Manny Pacquiao is exceptional. But it's not unprecedented.

    It's not like there is some mysterious force that is completely unexplainable in a natural way. And I could cite half a dozen guys, particularly going back to Ted 'Kid' Lewis, who weighed 114-to-116 when he started as a teenager, and who weighed 166 near the end of his career when he was fighting the top light heavyweights in the world.

    Mickey Walker, who was a welterweight, actually fought to a draw with a future heavyweight champion. There was Henry Armstrong, who started at 120 and wound up fighting middleweights. In the more modern era, there is Roberto Duran, who started as a teen-aged bantamweight and went all the way up to middleweight as a title-holder.

    There's Alexis Arguello. Every one of these guys was an extraordinary fighter. I don't know that they knew about steroids in their days. Nobody ever accused those guys of being drugged up. So, to me, it's not without precedent. Oscar De La Hoya once fought at 128, and then, he fought two middleweights in the high 150s.


    Larry also believes that pacquiaos best weight is at 140 like most people with a brain would know and contrary to pac haters saying that hes a natural welterweight and does not have a disadvantage against floyd.
     
  3. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    I think most people, even those who aren't familiar with Mayweather's past, are starting to figure out Floyd's original M.O. ...

    He will never make a fight happen if he feels his undefeated status is at risk. I thought he might have learned his lesson from the DLH and Hatton fights: great fights make great fighters...your legacy is determined by your resume!! He earned his largest paydays for making two fights with two great fighters.

    But, i guess he hasn't learned. Look at Pacquiao...does the fact that Manny has 3 losses on his record deface his legacy? Absloutely not...he doesn't avoid the challenges that are presented to him. The challenges which have made him the fighter he is today.

    It's up to Floyd...he can either be viewed as a coward or a champion.

    Right now...he's beginning to resemble the coward.

    BTW...instead of taking into consideration the fact that Larry Merchant has been around boxing in 6 different decades, the Floyd followers will try to question Larry's credibility instead of listening to what he has to say.
     
  4. Ted Stickles

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  5. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    :deal:deal:deal:deal:deal
     
  6. MikeBison

    MikeBison New Member Full Member

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    if this is all true, then i dontunderstand why floyd wants the random drug testing so bad
     
  7. I love reading what this man has to say. Always contains so much sense and experience. Like a boxing guru.

    What if they found something? Does Mayweather really want the fight to be canceled, given the fact that he believes strongly that he's going to win?

    This is an exceptional point! If Mayweather believes so strongly he can beat Pacquaio, why is he out to make Manny looks like a steriod user(true or not) this means he's out of pocket the biggest purse in boxing history and the biggest name of his career for the purpose of what?

    Simple principle of exposing a potential drug cheat(based on a whim)?

    Pffffft come on.
     
  8. SAS2

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    floyd sr is worried...
     
  9. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That point has been made before here, but usually ignored by 'No Money' Mayweather's fans.

    Both Pops Mayweather and Jr has said before even negotiations has taken place that Pacquaio would be an easy fight, that he's one dimensional, and Floyd would beat him easily etc.

    Then the steriod **** and testing stipulations happened.

    I find it amusing that they could say something but then prove to everyone else that they didn't really believe it in the first place. Dumbasses.

    The truth is that the Mayweathers are running scared of fighting Pacquiao in the ring. Period.
     
  10. Yeah true, the idea is common ey but I just like how straight Merchant put it. And the fact Merchant is saying it in the first place.

    He is never one to pull punches.
     
  11. Ech110

    Ech110 Active Member Full Member

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    classic. it might take the man 30 minutes to complete a sentence, but its worth it.
     
  12. hmm

    hmm damn chairs Full Member

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    hmm says . . .

    i guess merchant seen it all. he does bring great points up....
     
  13. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Larry is always going down deep on the matter and not just scratching the surface of course. Happens that whatever, no matter what Mayweather believes in concerning Pacquiao's rising and rising (in weight and class), there is a serious concern here... Floyd is not sure he can beat him! That's pretty obvious for Chrisake... Look, sure Floyd met most risky challenges on his way up 2 (in weight and class) - Castillo, Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, Hoya, but he has not given an answer to challenges once he got there on top... Forget about once undefeated Hatton, there was more to gain than to risk there, and consider Shane in early 2007... Consider Cotto or Shane after their fight... Consider Shane again after Floyd beat JMM... Floyd doesn't know whether his shoulder roll and defensive reflexes can outspeed Pacquiao's dynamic attack and two armed, fast and powerful attack from various angles. Cotto's legs bent and almost went with a str8 left late in the 6th like Hatton's legs went late in the 1st with that same punch from Pac. What if Floyd takes a left to the body and a fast right hand upstairs or a left uppercut combined with a right hook? Most guy's legs went so what is really behind all this? Is Floyd to make the same if he is to fight Shane or PW? Consider...
     
  14. deeta

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    larry pretty much hit the point most pac fans have been trying to make regarding the mayweather fight that pac haters/floyd fans have been constantly ignoring. i wonder if theyll be able to grab the logic on this interview.
     
  15. deeta

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    noone does. we can just speculate that he could be ducking like hes done in the past.