(new Ring Magazine) Mayweather vs. All Time Greats

How is that simple unless you explain it?

You could easily see why someone would assume Napoles "is in my top 64 fighters" equates to he is either 63 or 64 on your list.

 

I meant the explanation is pretty simple.

That's all.

Keith

 

I refuted all of the points you made on the clip I posted, and you responded with nothing. So come again on my analysis?

No, you're a worthless debater and poster because you put words in the mouths of those who are debating with you and try to change the topic by bringing personal bias into question. In short, you can't make a coherent argument.

Case in point.

 

I hate this forum. I really, really do.

 

Don't let the idiots get you down, I know it's hard, but there are a few intelligent fans around.

 

You didn't refute ****. You just pretended what happened didn't happen. That's not refutation, that is denial.


I haven't changed the topic once. I even cautioned having this discussion with you because I hate talking about boxing with fans of fighters. They don't see straight, then you went on to prove my point.


Your only retort has been

"Napoles has better footwork because I said so"


that doesn't hold much water. And I comment on you personally because that is how you come across. Someone who gets all butt hurt that not everyone agrees with your assessment of one of your favorite fighters. That is a valid point to our discussion, whether you want to admit it or not.

I mean, what exactly has been your rock solid prood that Napoles has better footwork than Mayweather? The clip you presented sure doesn't prove it. I've watched them both fight, I have never seen it.

But you take it as I am saying Napoles has poor footwork, because heaven forbid someone question your authority on Napoles.

I mean really, is it just way out of the realm of possibilty that Floyd could beat Napoles 3 out of five? Really? How myopic are you?


Keith

 

i think they went into hiding once the pac/mayweather steroid threads started

 

Void was lucky the judges were in him favor vs. Oscar to give Void a split decision win. I had Oscar beating Void and Castillo 1 I gave to Castillo and so did almost everyone, but the judges?

 

I explained what actually happened in comparison to what your peon eyes viewed. You returned with nothing useful (nothing at all in fact) because you have the analytical mind of a piece of wood.

Every argument aside from the one I rebutted has been about my supposed love for Napoles rather than an actual counterpoint. Whether this is because you haven't seen as much of Napoles as you claim, you're a peon (the most likely explanation), or you simply can't debate your way out of a wet paper bag, I don't know. What I do know is that your posts have shown your intelligence to be decidedly below average.

I gave specific reasons, which were shown in both of the clips I posted, as to why his footwork was without flaw. They are always positioned and spaced correctly while moving, with the the left foot slightly turned in and the backfoot turned at a 90 degree angle. They allow him excellent leverage without falling off balance when he punches, whether in combination, when countering, on the front or backfoot. His distance control was second to none, that is evident even in the first clip I posted when he was putting on non-stop pressure.

If you'd actually analyze the clip instead of looking at it with the mindset of the typical General Forum troll ("c'mon dawg, he caint even use da philly shell like Floyd, he punch mo dan fi ti a round, Floyd don't do dat cuh") you'd see these things. Then again likely not, because you obviously lack the technical knowledge of boxing to understand the subtleties of a boxing master like Napoles. You'd rather watch Floyd back up in straight lines with his hands down (which you relentlessly criticize Napoles for) pot-shotting off the ropes all day.

I really don't care how you view me, as I view you as little more than an insect I've just had the misfortune or stepping on, quite a few times unfortunately. You lack the credibility for me to continue wasting my time debating with you.

That's because you're a simpleton, which I've already explained over and over. I won't finish quoting the rest of your nonsense, I've said what I had to say. Read a few more boxing manuals, watch a lot more boxing, go to school, come back, and apologize.

Yes. Just had to get that in.

 

Although the results are a positive for Mayweather (I'd disagree with a number of em), it's unfair to match Mayweather up with the greats at 147.

That's like matching up Duran with the greats at 160.

 

Obviously, I would pick Carmen to beat Floyd, but I would have thought that if anything the stylistic upper-hand would go to PBF, given how Carmen seemed to struggle with movers like Graham.

 

For one, Carmen was still shittin green when he first faced Graham, who was a complete all around pure boxer at the weight who I wouldn't hesitate for a second to favor over Floyd myself. One of the most underrated fighters of the era. A prime Basilio who'd filled out and gained the necessary experience showed that he could fare very well against even the best of the backfoot boxers, as his rematch with Graham and his bouts with Robinson showed. A fighter like Floyd, who often relies on countering off the ropes and backing up in straight lines, would be brutalized by Carmen's attack.

 

Mayweather at this time does not deserve anymore to be even MENTIONED together with any great of the past.

 

Since the 60's and 70's? I guess I'm just an "idoit".

atsch

 

Yeah don't dare disagree with Sweet pea, or your'e a simpleton or peon or whatever he gets called in real life and he chooses project on anyone who disagrees with him here on the forum.

Napoles is the greatest ever.

Don't anyone DARE disagree, or Sweet pea after he gets done crying will come on this site and call you names.


Keith