Camacho Sr vs Judah @ 140

I think Zab always liked to throw with bad intentions, his power is drastically underrated, in his earlier career he threw far far more leather too.

BTW Explosive why is Junior WItter a 'fraud', he's not the best fighter of all time but hes tried to get the big fights and has been avoided and at his best is a slick tricky powerful counterpuncher

 

Witter's power/speed was absolutely lethal when he put it all together. His destruction of Cosme Riveria was amazing, had the iron chinned ultra ballsy Cosme down how many times in 3 rounds?

Cosme has lost a dozen fights against the likes of Joel Julio & Andre Berto and that chin never let him down like he did against Judah. Angulo stopped Cosme as well but that was accumulation along with a mercy stoppage. Judah blasted him right the **** out of there.

Anyway, I would favor Camacho but you can see great things from Zab in spurts.

 

Thats kind of my point. Maybe it was the way he lost to Tsyzu or moving up in weight, he didnt put his punches together as well as he did before that fight. Personally I thought it was him getting away from a real solid boxing group. His father is a horrible trainer in my opinion.
He became a front runner that kind of gave up midfight if the end didnt come early. He was giving Mayweather a tough fight for the first few rounds, because he had a good way of making guys who usually dont like to lead, take the lead, and thats why I feel he would give Hector a tough fight.
Zab doesnt punch like a welterweight? He was able to knock out Corey Spinks in the late rounds. The same Corey spinks Jermain Taylor went the distance with.

 

Camacho outspeeds Judah to a comfortable decision.

 

140 was not Camacho's best weight, and I think Zab would do enough to win a 12 round decision.

 

WOw this is an old post, but I still feel Judah was best suited at 140. He was way more offensive and explosive at that weight. I still think he would give any fighter that moved bacwards and couldnt punch hard a tough time at 140 pounds.

 

Yeah, the pre-Rosario was a terror...that version is way too early for some noobie fans...they just never saw him at that time I guess. Hector would have stopped Zab in 3...he's be doing all kinds of chicken dances against Camacho.

 

Was that version 140 pounds? You really think he would stop him in three rounds? Tszyu was a huge punching 140 pounder and Zab could have probably continued had Nady allowed him too. I dont think Camacho punched hard enough, certainly not against a true 140 pounder to knock him out in three. His KO percentage was next to nothing against any type of real fighter above 135.

 

He really was a different kind of fighter at 140 pounds.
He did get dropped at times, but his offensive output was a lot better. He was a far better attacking fighter with good speed and elusiveness.

 

Both are not fighters i hold in the highest regard, not to disrepect either man. It's ironic though that even years after the Tszyu loss i always rated wins over Judah (by opponents who could topple him), but the definicies are clear, with the fading and strength. The power and handspeed is so real though, but again Camacho has a quality, quality chin. Camacho even at his best could be labelled more flash than substance to some degree, and then again it's only effectiveness that counts. I reckon the 140 Camacho would tough it out over the distance, the hands are still fast, and he has heart to go all the way. Camacho decision.

 

Fair assessment, and agree for the most part. Only difference is I see Judah's power being a little more of the difference in this fight meaning it might have kept Camacho a little more on his backfoot and less offensive.

 

I reckon if Judah could get that kind of respect from Judah it would help bucket loads in terms of his chances getting the nod. Probably a bit obvious but thought i'd express that.

 

Young Guzman and Young Zab were the last fighters I really gushed at the vag over...now Im an old cynical and suspicious ****. Dont really get excited by prospects anymore, you just inevitably get disappointed.

 

Agreed. I know I keep harping about the whole Main Events breakup thing, but it affected a lot of the hot prospects coming out of the olympics in my opinion.
Tua, Golota, Vernon Forrest, Fernando Vargas, Judah, all were in the same gym training with each other under Lou Duva, Tommy Brooks, Roger Bloodworth, and Ronnie Shields not to mention Pernell Whitaker was spending a lot of time with Judah working with him. When that party broke up a lot of these guys kind of went sour too.