Do Heavyweights punch harder today...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Seamus, Jan 4, 2010.


  1. dezbeast

    dezbeast Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with janitor, though I'm more impressed with Bokaj's reasoning. When I had smaller gloves going up against someone, they didn't seem to be quite as effective at spinning the head as the bigger gloves. Like a spring type of effect or something.
     
  2. janitor

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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Of course; his blows would hurt more and would be more likely to cut. Unpadded gloves are much, much more likely to cause eye-damage which I would say is the secondary reason for the evolution of the glove, after hand damage.
     
  4. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    You can't take fighters on their word all of the time though. Fighters like to emphasize their victories, and will often claim guys they beat were better than guys they lost to.
     
  5. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    That's certainly a possible theory, but here's the video as promised:


    Same impact between smaller mma gloves and boxing gloves. Padding does nothing but protect the skin from superficial wounds.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T14JMqi4qr8[/ame]
     
  6. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    But he could've said Tyson. I understand your point but feel Holyfield has no reason to lie here... or just isn't.
     
  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Yep, I saw this too. Mystifying to me at first.
     
  8. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sorry, I don´t think Tyson had more power than Louis. He looked more spectacular but he didn´t have more power :bart

    I never said Wlad and Lewis didn´t have more power than Marciano. What I said was that from around 180 pounds on and than again from 220 pounds on, more weight doesn´t do much more for power than from 112 to 160 does. Weight is influences power more in the lower weightclasses than in the higher ones and the higher the weight gets the less important it gets.


    Read above. Why 180 and 220? I go by experience. I don´t see much difference in power from Marciano, Schmeling, Dempsey, Baer and Louis and these weigh roughly between 180 and 210. I also don´t think Tyson, Lewis and Wlad punched much harder.

    An example the difference in power between a 200 pound Joe Louis and a 160 pound Julian Jackson is bigger than that between a 200 pound Joe Louis and a 240 pound Lennox Lewis.


    But that spinning of the head is what makes you go down. A KO happens when the brain inside the head get´s rattled too hard and blacks out. More weight, more kinetic energy, more shaking. Of course there are diminishing returns and from a certain point the more weight of a glove will slow your velocity down too much so that it will lessen your kinetic energy. But in my oppinion today´s 8/10 ounce gloves are still in the range of increasing the kinetic energy.
    I agree that punches from smaller gloves hurt more and are more likely to inflict serious injuries but bigger gloves are more likely to produce one punch knockouts.
     
  9. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what experience do you go by ??
    if you don't think lennox lewis hits much harder than schmeling i think you are following the wrong sport.
     
  10. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What I have seen. Lewis punches harder than Schmeling, that´s a given but not that much harder that his more weight would make you think.
    Sorry that I´m a bit unclear at times English isn´t my mother tongue but only my third one.
     
  11. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    there's nothing wrong with your english mate.its better than 90% of english speaking people,probably more.
     
  12. GladiatoR

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    You've got three tongues?

    :lol:
     
  13. dezbeast

    dezbeast Active Member Full Member

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    Turpinr, I personally never considered Schmeling's punching power in the same dimension as Lewis's. That's a totally new concept to me. Please explain in detail why you believe their power to be comparible. You have peaked my interest.
     
  14. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    have a look at the posts again
     
  15. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    and a hell of a sex life ??he's chased by women wherever he goes :lol::lol: