No way klits can out box haye

Vitali and Vlad keep cleaning out the best heavyweights in the world. It so appears that some haters do not know anything about Klitschkos. Klitschkos are very skilled.

Vitali was six time superheavyweight kickboxing champion of the world, both pro and amatuer. Vitali was world military champion. International champion,etc.

Vitali was WBO world champion. WBC, then came back after four year lay-off and won WBC title again.

Vlad won gold medal back in 1996, superheavyweight division. Vlad was world military champion. International champion, you name it.

Vlad is now WBO, IBF, and Ring World champion.

Haye is on record as backing out of a signed contract to fight Vlad and faking an injury, never showing proof as promised!

Haye also backed out of a fight with Vitali, lying like Hell!

Haye ran away from Valouev for 12 rounds, throwing fewer punches than Johnson! Haye did not fight! Jim Watt was ringside commentator, he said that Haye can't win a fight without throwing punches. He had Haye losing the fight. Judges somehow gave Haye a Maj decision. Can you imagine if Vitali or Vlad had fought the way Haye did?! The Mayweather fans sure hate the Klitschkos!

 

Any one of the three major titlists can beat the other one. But Klitschkos and Valuev are not even similar. Hell, the K bros aren't even similar to each other past being big white guys. Also, no one who has followed this closely would think either K brother has avoided Valuev. Wladimir offered him the date set for Haye when Haye couldn't make it. Valuev declined, whereas Valuev's original conqueror took the fight-Chagaev.

 

No, just no, Gomez just plodded forward, no head movement and no power in his shots, hes awful and Johnson please, we all saw how pathetic he is, and Vitali did have trouble landing on him, he had no variety in his attacks whatsoever.

 

Yeah, I suppose Haye could run all night and get the decision.

But until Haye gets over his cripling fear of taking a clean punch at HW, then I don't think I'd bet my house on him.

 

Amazing how Gomez & Johnson only fought that way when they fought Vitali.....................I see a pattern here. ****, Gomez almost had Virchis out but he couldn't put a dent in VK.

 

I still have to laugh at the fact that someone reckons Kevin Johnson, yes that limp fisted boxer who recently made Vitali look silly is rated above Haye. Come on! He's a poor boxer, with average skills. Yes he can slip and roll, so what, aside from that, he can do nothing else. No power, no heart, zero offensive skills, and has won nothing! he comes for pay days and cares nothing about winning fights. It takes more than having a good defense to be considered a good boxer. If Kevin Johnson is the blue print for a decent boxer then, every other fighter should chop off both arms, and learn to do the lombada!!! Haye gets Johnson out of there any day of the week! anyone who thinks otherwise is on the crack pipe! GO figure.

 

I find it amusing that a lot of you yanks are calling Haye for fighting an effective, illusive fight against Valuev but fail to do the same thing in discussions on Froch vs Dirrell!

Back on point I see Haye beating Vitali by knockout. The old fragile guy is now there for the taking and has never fought a guy like Haye. Wlad will be much more difficult as he is the much better boxer and has better and quicker movement but the weaker chin. If Haye can time a right hand then it's all over but Wlad also posesses a big right hand so I'm 50/50 on that fight but again Wlad hasn't fought against such speed and explosiveness ever so will be interesting

 

I cant see Haye beating either of the brothers.Both are far better than Valuev skill and power wise.Haye brings speed but little else and i just think he will need a lot more than that,i cant see him getting past wladimir`s jab and Vittali will have too much power for Haye.He will be stopped or knocked out against either brother.

 

Power does not make you a boxer And Kevin Johnson is a hell of a lot more fundamentaly sound the Haye I dont think Johnoson has heart but heart is not boxing skills...And again Cory Spinks has no power i guess he is not a good boxer according to you? Really Haye gets johnson out of there any day of the week? Based off what his Hype?

Which fighter has been stopped in there career? Not johnson hell hes never even been on the canvas where Haye has been floored and stopped people who campaigned at middleweight and supermiddleweight. So since you are rating intangables as boxing ability Johnson deffinately has the superior chin as well as real boxing skills such as footwork the ability to throw the straiter punches, knows how to roll with shots and keep his chin Tucked skills.. All Haye has on him is power and we are not sure how strong Haye is at Heavyweight considering he has never Knocked out anyone who is above average. :deal

I notice you avoided almost every question.. I wonder why?

 

"Power does not make you a boxer And Kevin Johnson is a hell of a lot more fundamentaly sound the Haye."

Are you still trippin?? Johnson is by no means fundamentally sound, I assure you. He will not go on to beat anyone of note and does get hit himself. I never said power alone makes a boxer, but you seemed to suggest having an ok defense does. Haye has a lot more going for him though, he's fought at a decent level as a amateur as well, so he's got skills, plus power, plus speed and movement. He's won titles, and thats something KJ will never do. Your argument is pretty pathetic, seriously.

 

Come on now you know fact means nothing to the Haye fan much like there idol they have to rely on Hype because his accomplishments arnt anything special.

 

You assure me... tell me how many johnson fights have you seen what boxing skills does haye posess better then johnson? Johnson is a better boxer then haye tell me what skills does Haye posess over johnson Haye has power.. what else?

"he can do nothing else. No power, no heart, zero offensive skills"
How many of those items mentioned have to do with boxing skills one?

Floyd isnt a good offensive fighter let me guess you dont think he can box either.. truth is if you are not a good offensive fighter you need to be a very good defensive fighter or how do you win..

And i still noticed you avoided almost all the question who is Hayes best win? And again you talk up Hayes win over Valuev then call Arreola and Peter slow and plodding even though they are both faster then Valuev and have Great chins and a lot more power. So what makes the valuev win special?

And why did Haye duck Johnson after agreeing to fight him?

Also unlike Haye Johnson had the balls to get in the ring with Klitschko after your idol ran with his tail between his legs.. Johnson fought Vitaly who is better then anyone on hayes resume by a mile.

 

You guys aren't getting it. Gomez has a style that is made for Vitali, Arreola has a style that is made for Vitali, Sam Peter has a style that is made for Vitali, but Haye has the style to beat Vitali because he will bring what none of these others did and thats speed, serious genuine KO power and a lot of movement. Of course Vitali is more than capable of beating a fighter like Haye, if Haye fights the wrong fight but its well known in boxing that styles make fights, and you need to look at the kind of opponents Vitali has been fighting, and each one of them have brought very little that Vitali does not know how to deal with.

I think he has gotten very comfortable dealing with these guys, Vitali has one style, one way of fighting as we saw against Johnson. He ran out of ideas and was easily frustrated. I think KJ for all his lack of offense exposed Vitali as a one trick pony. He will come in straight lines, and his speed is not what it was.

 

Haha, oh man you are just pulling yourself into a hole more and more with every post. Let me correct you, Floyd is a GREAT offensive fighter, but he's an even better defensive fighter. There is a difference between being a good defensive fighter who knows when to counter and steal/win rounds, and someone who is just dancing against the ropes and evading punches. As nice as it looks, you need to HIT THE OTHER GUY!!

And Johnson is a nobody, why would Haye duck him, or even need him?? Johnson showed his worth (or rather, lack of) and what he brings to a fight in his fight with Vitali. After that, do you think Johnson has anything to trouble Haye?? and also there would be no interest in the fight, even more so now. Johnson is just after the pay days. He's a non puncher, Haye IS a puncher, what do you think will happen?? He will get Johnson out of there quicker and more efficiently than Vitali did.